[Marko]

Dear GUILLE,

What you wrote was very intriguing, especially when you were doing a dog and lions and tiger example. It could be used to describe relations between H.s. sapiens and Neanderthal, but what I really find is that the core of this theory could be used to give us some answers on more complex questions.
Here is what I think: You were right when you said that we, humans are looking for some ideal properties in animals. This sentence, believe it or not, has a much deeper meaning. For the reasonable explanation of this, I will need a lot of paper! In the end, I think I will give you my explanation of interactions between H.s. sapiens and Neanderthal, but somehow my intention is to go step further.

We compare them (animals) to us. We love them, they makes us laugh, when we are lonely, they are there. But if we want to hear the truth, it is a one way road. We are thinking instead of them, feeling instead of them, hearing instead of them. All this is through our ability of „real existence“. During my high school education, I talked a lot to other people since I tried to understand why somebody is very cruel, somebody very religious etc...Well, most of the time I listened carefully what they were saying, and the often subject was the position of the humans in the universe, and comparisons with the animals. Most of them were desperately trying to understand how it feels to be an animal or plant. Then I would tell them a story about deserted island. You, ape, cat, snail, apple tree, germs and computer are on the deserted island. You exist since you possess „real existence“and all other beings exist through your interpretation of them, and that interpretation is created in your head (mind). If we remove you from that island and we erase your memory there will be no existence, since your companions from the island doesn’t possess ability of „real existence“and you, the only witness, don’t have this interpretation in your head anymore. Of course they would be where they were-on the island, but tell me, where is their existence without any witness, observer? Hence, I can state ape=cat=snail=apple tree=germs=computer=photons=quantum vacuum – if we are looking in terms of „I think therefore I am“. I should paraphrase it and say „I think, feel, see, hear things, I can enjoy the sunset, ice-cream, cigarette, sex, I am aware of my past, of the fact that I will die – therefore I am“. This is „real existence scale“-humans versus the rest. If we want to imagine how some animal heard or saw something, think of a radar, computer and how they are „thinking, hearing and seeing things”, and „who are they“? I am exposing all this since I want to point out how important and unique „real existence“ is, and all this by natural way without the interference of God, and with the respect to all known natural laws, by series of cosmic and evolutionary accidents. Don’t get me wrong, I am not trying to underestimate other living beings and other biological and non-biological structures. But in a way, we are privileged by series of accidents. IN A WAY, we, HUMANS, are „EVERYTHING“ and the rest of the universe is NOTHING. Of course I know we are made from the organic matter, molecules, atoms, and we have to say thanks to that „NOTHING“ because without that „NOTHING“ we wouldn’t be here discussing this topic!
But if we look through our „real existence“ through our subjective interpretation, then indeed we can grade them as we like, somebody will favor the ape, somebody apple tree, computer.


I call this „the subjective real existence scale“.


Now I am closing this chapter and I am going a step further.


You were right when you noticed that we were better thinkers and creators than Neanderthals. And the real explanation is in the development of the „real existence consciousness“ and we can follow this development through the „levels of real existence consciousness“. Here evolutionary chaos ends, but evolution is still here, just in a more subtle, sophisticated and gentle manner. Note that I don’t mean that one level is better than other, more valuable or more important. They all have very important role in the healthy development of a human being. As a matter of fact, every baby starts from the 1.level, no matter, were the rest of the society. We all came from 1.level, but where will we settle down, is up to us, at least today. What is the upper limit I don’t really know. What I can say is that this incredible sophisticated evolution is at work all the time from the „first to the last human (observer, witness, real existence) on the Earth“ Here are the basic levels, at least my interpretation:

1. Level – hunger, sex, other basic needs, warmth...etc. – very first Homo sapiens (sapiens + Neanderthal), first in possession of „real existence“. In their lives instincts and intuition are dominating, with some chance of more gentle thoughts and of some chance to get on the next level. This state of dominating intuition and instincts is also unique for Homo sapiens (sapiens + Neanderthal) – If you were reading first part of my theory, then you know on what I am pointing (real existence =Homo sapiens, animals and their instincts can be deducted to NOTHING – last lines of my first part).
2.level- totems, magic, ethnical tribes, wodoo stuff, „evil spirits“ - today some poor tribes in Africa, but 50-80 thousand years ago dominant force on Earth.
Finally explanation:
While Neanderthals were desperately struggling on the 1. level, some H.s. sapienses were able to go step further and after some time most of the H.s. sapienses were on the 2.level, and this is the reason how they adapted better in the environment, while Neanderthals were struggling with their „real existence level 1“. Maybe some individuals from Neanderthal species got to the 2.level, but there wasn’t critical number of Neanderthals on the 2.level, so evolution + environment : Neanderthal 1:0 !!
On the other hand, our species had that critical number of people in the 2.level, hence H.s. sapiens : evolution + environment : 1:0 !!!

3. Level – egocentrism, violent tribes, „ destroyers of the Rome“ , only power and glory, revenge.

4. Level - myths, acceptance of „narrow religion“, to be one sheep in the flock, system of awards and punishments – literal interpretation of Bible, Tora, Koran, etc. (Christianity, Islam), heaven and hell, nationalism.

5. Level – purely scientific, trying to terminate religion and all that what came with it. “Physics is God, I don’t need anything else to solve all the problems in the world“– is their slogan. They were right when they terminated „narrow religion“, flock effect, myths, but with 99 % of the trash, they terminated something EXTREMLY VALUABLE AND IMPORTANT – HIGH SPIRITUALITY (high philosophy=+high ecology+......)


6. Level - ecology, human rights, animal rights, partial integration of science and high spirituality, democracy, developed but still in the fog, a lot of brilliant ideas but still without the hole picture.

7. Level - integration of “best of the science” with the „best of the spirituality ( high philosophy + high ecology + ...) , possible partial answer to the TOE. TOE should be based on laws on nature but with the respect to our “real existence” and “HIGH SPIRITUALITY” (only individuals possess this high spirituality, not entire H.s.s.) as a product of „real existence“.
8. level – „integration of all integrations“ , at this stage possible answer to the TOE., most of the time deep meditation, not sure, highly speculative, maybe only theoretical ????

I think that most of the people today (above 60%) would range from 3.level – 4. level.

I had a lot of thoughts about the universe, but I think it is better to leave this for another post!
I am completely aware that this theory needs to me upgraded, this is only a core!!!
GUILLE, I would like you to carefully examine my theory, I would like detailed critics, suggestions, everything...... it can do only some good!!!!!!

P.S. I apologize for some possible spelling errors!

Regards!
Marko