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01-01-2006, 05:42 AM
Astrology is not mechanics - so what is...

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Originally Posted by baudrunner
The baudrunner was born at 11.34 P.M. on June 27, 1953 in a little place called Best about six kilometres north of Eindhoven in the Netherlands.

I once did my chart a long time ago by hand before the age of computers and found that I have Venus ascending in Taurus under a full moon. Correct me if I'm wrong.

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I'm sorry, but I don't see how "Venus ascendung in Taurus under a full moon" can mean anything to anyone. Personally I find Astrology is not far from palm reading and Tarot. I see Astrology is not mechanics but an interpretative art, depending on the flair of the practitioner at best, and an unregulated and potentially dangerous chaos at worst.

Nice to hear from someone born in the Netherlands, I have been so impressed by Dutch people, society, and values, especially practical aesthetics, over the years. Good people to have on the planet, in my view.

Professional Human Design readings are available for a couple of hundred dollars, you will find a list of those who have done their training and paid the annual licence fee on www.jovianarchive.com - Good luck. However the purpose on THIS website is to debate a SINGLE and UNIFIED Theory of Everything. That requires SOME experiential evidence of patterns that arise consistently and a communal refinement of underlying logical sequences, presented within the limitations of words and images.

But for anyone wanting more examples, as data, many sites across the world are presenting Celebrity Human Design (Posh Spice and David Beckham share the "money line" and so on, it is very entertaining...) and Neutrino Weather - the disgraceful acts occurring on September 9 (New York ) and it's exact opposition, the ides of March (Madrid bombing, Allende uprising, and of course Julius Caesar's murder). Of those, the chilling prediction of bird flu a couple of years ago as the FIRST of many many nasty retroviruses, the correct predictions for the invasion of Iraq ahead of time, these made my blood run cold. The industrial revolution and information age are at the heart of Human Design theories, in terms of Global Cycles. Nobody yet seems to have mapped the 20th century wars and fashions but this is mechanics, ALL must fit in science or exceptions explained.

So this is in my view different to Astrology. Astrologers disagree. Empiricists measure and mechanics is what Nasa used, Newtonian laws, to get men to the moon and back. Mechanics.

Is this so difficult to grasp here on this forum? Surely not. Mechanics of objects, yes, blah blah blah. But DO WE REACH CAN WE FIND IS THERE a MECHANICS of CONSCIOUSNESS?

And if so, clearly photons are not involved.

What fluid dynamics, turbulence, and so on, could explain a) a mechanics of consciousness and b) the apparent linkages of consciousness to material forms, and the discontinuities (death, birth, and a review of apparently paranormal anomalies of apparent consciousness and material forms with behaviours impossible to Newton, are these real, is there mechanics?)

Of course neutrinos are too tempting as an ocean bubbling through all material forms, that somehow twists or has turbulence or bubbles that for us, are us, as consciousness, and the consciousness of others.

That is urgent to reconsider. Hydrogen burns to Helium in stars and out rushes photons - visible light and mechanics as we know it, AND neutrinos, passing through all matter, doing what? Doing what?

Yes Saturn or Jupiter might twist the spin and wobble on neutrinos from the background constellations, OK, as a lens. And yes we would experience that lens as a constant distortion. That is not enough.

Human Design appears to link consciousness to material form as if reality as we know it is merely an appearance, a television filmset, in your mind and in mine, and asks us to put aside this photon appearance, and trust another world view. My only LOGICAL conclusion about that worldview, a conclusion I hold alone, is that movement, tranformation, subtance, and structure, which together form our impressions of space and time, are actually generated within our consciousness but may not be any more accurate a model of what is "out there" than whatever goes on in the head of an ant.

That possibility actually frees us to reconsider a dual form of reality, a second and more dominant layer, where there is no light to view what is there. But my instinct, again alone, in thinking this through, is that plants grow from seeds, where that seed falls, they do not get up and walk about.

Both ASTROLOGY and HUMAN DESIGN appear to say, you are tattoed at birth into some fixed path. I dislike that vague idea because it is not mechanics really. Instead, and this is not Human Design, this is my working theory presented here for the first time to anyone, what if from some other "light" or view, that is somehow real, we are seeds planted fixed in the position where our bubble of consciousness (mind) squeezed through into the bubble of material form we call body - and what if we remain there, somehow, as still and unmoved as plants, ah! Then these strange ideas are a basic mechanics. In another landscape, a landscape of consciousness, that interpenetrates this material landscape, as two rippled membranes (Hello Neil Turok in Cambridge University and others with these ideas...) - so a continuing DUALITY instead of the singularity of Hawking and Penrose... in that landscape of consciousness, I certainly feel rooted, still, unmoved since my birth.

What then could be the linkage between consciousness and material form as LANDSCAPES that interface as turbulent membranes, forming bubbles of minds "in" bodies - and perhaps even bubbles of material form trespassing into the liquid/solid whatever is beyond the skin membrane of consciousness...

Well, baudrunner, nice one. My "human design" is to explain, struggle, mutate and care, in RESPONSE to some stimulation, grit in the oyster if you like, that I coat with my essence to make a pearl in my discomfort.

I have never managed to express what I just wrote. Until now. But I have this and more constantly pressing in my mind and awareness like a full bladder. I hope the essence of what I have posted is reasonably sweet.
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