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01-06-2006, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by David Maes
What about this...

You're driving a car using a route you've done already lots of times. You're listening to the radio while it's playing. You're very concentrated on what's being said on the radio. Suddenly you arrive at the place of destination. You don't remember anything about the red lights you stopped for, or the decisions you might have taken, or the many times you had to stop...
You were so concentrated on the radio "you" just "weren't there".

What's conscious and what's unconscious?

Also... what's objective and what's subjective? There seems to be a gap between the subjective and the objective.
here's my strange theory about objectivity vs. subjectivity

Subjectivity is really the only true and absolute objectivity. The reason is because life is designed as the ultimate judge of reality. For example, let's say you lived in a world where everybody suffered. Well, to a degree we do live in this world, I mean, things could theoretically be better right? We think so, but how do we even know any better if it doesn't exist objectively in our world. Because it simply doesn't exist but only in potential as an idea, objectively it is technically bullshit. But it's not bullshit, so in this way our minds override the objects that are currently in place. Subjects override objects because subjects create objects as thoughts.

Let me put it this way, if everybody suffered daily then objectively this would be considered not suffering, because it would be commonplace. Yet humans would still be able to ascribe to some sort of non-objective reality (i.e. subjectivity) and thus be able to say that this is not normal, this is suffering. Only then could we reach beyond and transcend what is our objective circumstances to be able to understand that there could be something better in our "subjective" yet absolute opinions. Therefore subjectivity is the only true absolute and thus is the only way to see the non-objectivity, i.e. non absolution of objectivity. If you ascribe complete absolution to objectivity, you will not see that this itself is subjective. Does this make sense? So in other words all we really want is an absolute standpoint, and since we are subjects the only absolute standpoint we can ever have is subjectivity, and thus in this absolute sense subjectivity is not subjective at all in the classic sense but is really the only true objectivity. So objectivity is just a word for pure absolute subjectivity. I'm not sure if I described myself well, but do you understand?
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