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Fredrick · **Gold Nuclei Collision -** 03-29-2005, 12:45 PM

I see what you mean.
The best way to describe my point of view is that our universe is based on duality (though I believe this can come about in a four-part way). So your description is not something I disagree with but I do not think that it is the whole story of nothing. Next to a nothing (or better a sense of nothing) in the 'add infinitum' as you are describing I believe there is a nothing that simply is nothing. I cannot really describe it in mathematical language, but if I had to it would be something like n - n = 0. Indeed, not the most elegant equation, but there are no good scientific ways to describe just the hole in the wall.

In the New York Times Science section of today (3-29-05) I read about the collision of gold nuclei in the Brookhaven National Laboratory. Here is a picture of the result:
http://www.physicscentral.com/pictur...ures-00-4s.jpg
and the abstract can be read at http://arxiv.org/abs/hep-th/0501068

This is powerful imagery that seems to support what I am saying about an empty center at the emergence of the universe. Dr. Horatiu Nastase describes in the NY Times article that "(t)he collision of gold nuclei produce matter as it existed shortly after the Big Bang."

I could not ask for a better image.

I do not want to start up a new discussion here (because I do not have the capacity to discuss in detail what I am thinking - I lack the scientific knowledge that is required for good discussions on this topic), but...
as you can read in the abstract the focus is on having recreated a miniature black hole, and I just need to say that I think the black hole thing is overblown too much. I don't think there is as much gravity in our universe as is being calculated. I think a theoretical mistake is being made by expecting gravity to exist where it does not - or at least not in these vast quantities: at the center of galaxies.

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Fredrick 4th degree Black Belt Status: Offline Posts: 587 Thanks Given: 44 Thanked 99x in 81 Posts Join Date: May 2004 Rep Power: 23	Gold Nuclei Collision - 03-29-2005, 12:45 PM I see what you mean. The best way to describe my point of view is that our universe is based on duality (though I believe this can come about in a four-part way). So your description is not something I disagree with but I do not think that it is the whole story of nothing. Next to a nothing (or better a sense of nothing) in the 'add infinitum' as you are describing I believe there is a nothing that simply is nothing. I cannot really describe it in mathematical language, but if I had to it would be something like n - n = 0. Indeed, not the most elegant equation, but there are no good scientific ways to describe just the hole in the wall. In the New York Times Science section of today (3-29-05) I read about the collision of gold nuclei in the Brookhaven National Laboratory. Here is a picture of the result: http://www.physicscentral.com/pictur...ures-00-4s.jpg and the abstract can be read at http://arxiv.org/abs/hep-th/0501068 This is powerful imagery that seems to support what I am saying about an empty center at the emergence of the universe. Dr. Horatiu Nastase describes in the NY Times article that "(t)he collision of gold nuclei produce matter as it existed shortly after the Big Bang." I could not ask for a better image. I do not want to start up a new discussion here (because I do not have the capacity to discuss in detail what I am thinking - I lack the scientific knowledge that is required for good discussions on this topic), but... as you can read in the abstract the focus is on having recreated a miniature black hole, and I just need to say that I think the black hole thing is overblown too much. I don't think there is as much gravity in our universe as is being calculated. I think a theoretical mistake is being made by expecting gravity to exist where it does not - or at least not in these vast quantities: at the center of galaxies. The difference between a structure based on unification and a structure without unification hinges on the question if nothing is just plain nothing or if nothing is mighty fundamental. Read In Search of a Cyclops with titillating mathematical evidence (see homepage) to find out if separation belongs to the fundamental basics of our universe - or not.