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01-17-2006, 09:11 PM
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If you want to belief this, do so. But it won't change from that, a belief. It's not my opinion, it's jus that saying that such fundamental entities which represent the words mass and matter are the same is wrong.
Allright, I'm not saying that you're wrong. I just want you to explain in very good terms to me why matter is different then mass because if you say that matter is just "rest mass" I will ask you to define for me an absolute frame of rest because nothing on planet earth and nothing that we can weigh is at rest. Everything in the universe is moving.

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In fact for being so fundamental, equalizing these two concepts means developing a compelte whole science which is wrong, from top to bottom. It's like saying everywhere there is science there is philosophy, so science and philosophy are the same thing
so you think science is wrong that thinks mass and matter are the same thing. Well welcome to the world of science. Science made up a term called "relativistic mass" to refer to what deleviwing is referring to. Also I just wanted to point out that science and philosophy are the same thing. In fact the first scientists were called natural philosophers. Science is really just physics at it's core, and math is the way we represent physics, and physics is just natural philosophy, or nature's philosophy if you will.
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