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Originally Posted by <<>> 1. Either god exists, or not.
2. Either I believe that god exists, believe that god doesn't exist, or that we can't determine if god exists or not.
3. My beliefs must be for me parts of nature.
4. I can explain nature without the need of the idea of god.
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Therefore:
5. I don't need to believe in god to explain the universe.
6. If I believe we cannot determine whether god exists or not, then I'm always wrong, for god either exists or not (independent of whether we can determine if god exists or not).
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Therefore: Agnosticism is wrong and leads to atheism. |
This was really a beautiful way of clarifying the actual problem and I would like to congratulate you for this.
What I feel God is all that part of the universe that we do not know yet but which still actively participate in determining the states of various systems ( the systems that we like to study ... it might be our life as well) Now what the problem is we know something about the rules and working of the universe and by that knwledge we can predict its behavior, but, we do not know everything about it. This ignorance "adds" degree of freedom to our system and makes it a little unpredictable and also lets it have a set of causally connected states even if the system is let free. we put all these uncertainties and ignorance in a single word "GOD".