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Originally Posted by chazzysaw

If you believe God does not exist then what is it you believe that make it possible for things to not only exist but to think. I just want to know what it is you don't believe?

Hi chazzysaw!



I believe in the probability combined with the pure randomness.

You see,I think that our particular universe, and its Big Bang arent something special. For me, this is a normal, ordinary event that happens from time to time. This is achievable either via Multiverse- and infinite oscillations in the Multiverse, either through infinite oscillations of our universe -one and only universe scenario.Until the humans, everything was nothing,since there was no consciousness or self awareness.

My assumption is that everything that can happen in this pure randomness,eventually will happen.However, this doesnt work with the humans and self awareness,here almost everything can happen, but almost nothing must.

This our evolution is some kind of the best hyper-super-evolution.

I think there are other worlds where evolution wasnt so successful.There are worlds where species have terrible mutations,horrible respiratory system,or instincts are heavily disturbed.Not only this, I think that if you were on some planet inhabited with higher primates,and if you would wait for the appearance of homo sapiens, it would be pointless.I think that there are odds 1/1000000000000 in the optimistic version,that humans will develop from the higher primates. In most of the worlds, evolutionary accidents are to lethal, to disturbing and there is no homo sapiens.Environment is very stable or very disturbing-again no humans.And of course, since humans are the most sophisticated product of evolution and universe, it is normal to expect that other biological structures will be very well organized there where are humans, on Earth.But I think there must be a lot of planets with this horrible evolution. And yes, we have to distinct between human intelligence - self aware, and this "random intelligence" - rest of the universe.

And since I think that universe is oscillating,there is no problem if humans cant appear in first oscillation.Maybe they can appear after

10¹ºººººººººººººººººº oscillations, but in infinite oscillating system, it is enough that something can happen,and one day it will.I repeat, that works until the humans.

For example, if there are three possible occupations in the universe - scientist,tennis player,artist -even if I could live in infinite number of universes I could always choose to be an artist,I dont have to be a scientist. But also, I can be artist once, and every other time scientist.



And this oscillations can be achieved either via Big Crunch (small possibility) or Big Freeze(high possibility). So, now we are in the Stelliferous era - followed by Degenerate era,Black hole era,Dark era.After, or better in the Dark era after some enormous amount of time, quantum transitions are possible,and the cycle is closed in the form - Big Bang....Big Freeze...Big Bang...Big Freeze..

I think that this is achievable either via Heim or String theory which are probably at the moment two best theories for describing our current universe.



And god is created by humans in one stage of the self awareness development, similar to the tothems.



Best wishes!