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01-24-2006, 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by subversion
But a cookie is made up of a cookie. It has to be.
Your assertion is that this cookie is made up of itself, correct? Let's follow this example further. Let's say that the cookie (C) being referenced has, at least, these ingredients: flower (f), sugar (s), eggs (e), butter (b).

My assertion is:
C=f+s+e+b

Your assertion (as I understand it) is:
C=C+f+s+e+b

If the formula is correct then f,s,e,b must each equal 0 in order for it to be true. So that would mean the cookie has no ingredients except for itself. One could rectify this by adding -C, but that just leads to my assertion anyway.

I'm not saying that a cookie is not itself. I am saying that a combination of components leads to the definition of the cookie. I see your argument as saying "a cookie is a cookie because it's a cookie" which is circular logic.

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Originally Posted by subversion
And also I discount your proof above because you talk about the set A and then you say that A is not a set. SO which is it? A set or not?
Your understanding of the terminology I use is wrong. I talk about the set of A which is indicated by {A}. The set A would be defined as A={some elements}. So:

A - [An element with properties]
{A} - [The set of all elements with properties exactly the same as A. Or simply the set of A]
A={some elements} - [The set A. A is an identifier used to reference all the elements in the set.]
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