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Originally Posted by harmonygirl Perhaps you'll remember that we ARE animals. |
Perhaps... And perhaps not.
You didn't understand the meaning of 'animals' in my terminology. I know we are animals. But animals in that sense what simply physical beings that can be reduced to be a world of chemical reactions and substances that make up the processes and workings of our organs, and that are simply acting in fundamentals such as surviving and reproducing. Now I'm posting, this doesn't give me health to survive (in fact by siting badly by back gets bad) nor makes me reproduce (or at least it is quite ahrd to think how I could be having sex with you by writing this post). Now I know that someone else or you is going to say that in fact I reply to survive in the thread's discussion, and that in a way I am having sex through this, and so and so, but those are misinterpretations, that mislead the meaning of the words and enter 'representational terminology'.
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Originally Posted by harmonygirl If you meant that as an insult, |
NO. In fact being an animal is not an insult, we are in fact the most complex bodies we've ever met. We can claim superiority over rocks, drops of water, air, the earth's core, the sun... (And yet it is suprising that we depend on most of these, in that sense we are inferior to them, this is again a show that nature is contradictory
to itself, but not
by itself.)
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Originally Posted by harmonygirl I consider animals equal to us (they certainly don't start wars for oil, etc), |
And here is a clear example of a self-contradictory statement. Animals are equal to us, you say, but they don't start wars for oil, etz. Then they are NOT equal to us. Do you mean biologically? Then you should start to think about why you think (if you do so), for you will discover you have something we like to call 'mind' and something we call 'intelligence' and 'consciousness' that animals don't. But also we have 'will to power' as Nietzsche said, whiles animals don't. I don't say we are different to them, I just look for a reason to believe that we are equal. A reason to believe why they should ahve the same rights as us. I'm not anti greenpeace, in fact I recycle the most I can and don't waste paper. Don't eat whales. But I don't like misinterpreting what the 'human rights' are, as so many do, they are not a 'rgiht of species' but a 'right of minds' of persons, not of humans.
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Originally Posted by harmonygirl so I am not insulted. |
I didn' intent to insult you. I didn't say animal insultivelly.
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Originally Posted by harmonygirl And the universe is also (in addition to orderly) random, etc. |
What the universe is, one cannot copy. And if you try to copy it, you will waste and loose your time. And nowadays there is nothing more precious.