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Originally Posted by dleviwing HbD;
Inside the atom, it is only the wave functions that are of any significance and thus your comment about charge inside an atom is quite correct in my opinion. Charge is a function of uniform motion and constructive or destructive wave interference. |
Last night, as it is now a rutinary habit in me, I was doing my midnight stroll after a light dinner. I place great importance to that moment of solitude and a chance to look up the sky and check that the stars are still with us. Anyway, I was thinking about the sentenced underlinned above in your quote and I think I reached a very important conclusion I've never thought about before.
Your definition of CHARGE (outside the atomic structure) is quite correct and I recall writting something similar about that too. You might have misunderstood me when I described CHARGES as "the collapsing of two component (entangled) waves..." I was automatically assuming the same charge at the instant of MEASURING and/or PRODUCING A WORK. When we measure an electron we collpase its
complex wave structure into its CHARGE which is no other than (just as you mentioned above) the constructive or destructive interference or interaction if you will at a given point in space.
The same result will occur if we USE the CHARGE of that same electron in the production of a work like when we power our home appliances for example.
From the moment that energy goes through a process of transformation (entropy) into a diferent nature of energy it can no longer be consider one electron anymore.
But the amazing thing happened yesterday when I was trying to translate the concept of "uniform motion" into the actual nature of a CHARGE. I believe Einstein himself might have gone through similar process of illumination when he made the connection between mass and energy... It's just a guess without any implications.
You probably know by now that I am the type of person with strong ties to human LOGIC and COMMON SENSE but also a good deal of imagination too. If it's true that I am and never hide before the fact that I am an outsider in the sense of having credentials to backup my images I feel in my heart the same pasion for physics since I was a kid. The point is that I might have been mislead by that strong attachment to LOGIC when I believed that an electromagnetic wave with a higher frequency (greater energy) SHOULD move FASTER than another less energetic (in the vacuum). I thought that such possibility might have been missed by scientists due to the necessary distance it would take to verify it>> taking into consideration the wavelength of light.
What I did was almost the same as what Einstein did back then... I assumed light speed to be the LIMIT of speed in the universe as he proposed back in 1905. My mind was like a battle between both sides of the brain... The right side was proposing new scenarios to deal with something the left (logical) side was not willing to compromise with... Anyway! Finally the idea pooped up in some corner of my mind:
If a more energetic wave can not propagate faster than other with a lesser content of energy then what will happen to the "system" itself?
Dave I need you to clear your mind and try to see this, please.
What I saw was an increase in the speed of the SPIN of one wave INSIDE the other in a interwinned (complex) MOMENTUM.
The actual MOMENTUM of two entangled waves propagating across the vacuum could as we know be described as one from point A to point B. However If we assumed for a moment that one wave could be moving [simultaneously] along with another with less energy just like a coil built inside another one... That image could explain why we see such UNCERTAINTY in the final POSITION of the quantum once it is made to collapse. The image of two entangled waves (forced to "run together" until their final collapse) might have reached a point in their MUTUAL SPIN where as the energy of one wave increases progressively they suddenly may "jump" into a FERMION (electron etc.)
This is what may have occured during the Photoelectric Effect too!
An electron is made from a higher interference (and alternating constructive and destructive) of two waves whose RELATIVE (mutual) electromagnetic energy has finally reached a
SPIN VELOCITY set-up by the nature of the vacuum to become A CHARGE.
In simple English now... If we increased the energy of one or both waves previously entangled in a common path (interference) SPIN will show AN INCREASED RATE OF ROTATION (angula velocity) giving as a result [after the limit is reached] to an increase in the CHARGE of a given "particle."
You see Dave... Einstein probably saw that increase in MASS without in fact knowing what actually caused that we saw it in that way.
It was the SPIN all this time what actually INCREASED its angular momentum having as a result a change in REALITY as seen by our measuring instruments (apparatus).
Think about this and give me your opinion about it. However we have had some difference in opinion in the past I recognize your pasion for physics and the wisdom of your analysis.
HUMANBYDEFAULT