[Guille]

I don't understand why most epistemological theories accept that we percieve subjectivelly. We don't. We percieve, experience, objectivelly. How could THAT be subjective? I mean, when we think about things, then we are subjectives, for we are subjects, as our minds make us subjects (that is why we are not objects). When we compare an experience to previous experiences of the same thing, or experiences of other things, then we are subjective. But the actual act of perception, of experience, is objective. We may not be absolute (I may be seeing only one side of a table) but at least we are objective (I'm seeing a table in itself). Therefore, instead of saying that the noumena is product of the mind, is an ideal that doesn't exist, we should say that the phenomena is what doesn't exist, what is only a product of the mind (only once it is in the mind, it is noumenal). I don't know to what theories this thought can lead, but I'm sure it leads to somewhere new.