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Originally Posted by dleviwing  Sorry IC but you are only providing more opinions. Show the experimental data or a link to the tests that draw such conclusions.
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Dleviwing,
For your information what i am saying is not an opinion the truth of what i am saying is established by the following facts;
(A) Materialists believe and teach that "Mind and consciousness are pure physical motions and interactions of matter." Consequently without the motion of matter there is no mind and no consciousness - if there is no mind and no consciousness then obviously matter no longer exists - there is no matter without consciousness to experience it - without consciousness there is nothing to explore and therefore nothing to explain.
This fact establishes that each individual is creating the universe they see. Creation as such does not exist per se each of us is creating it individually and experiencing it individually. The entire world lives in the mind of man.
Wheras, materialists advocate the doctrine that matter is the fundamental reality of the universe and whereas there is no matter without motion - obviously matter is motion. Stop motion and there is no more matter. Do you need experimental data and tests to understand these obvious facts that prove themselves.
Whereas life i.e. consciousness is coming from the motion of matter - and there in no matter without motion - obviously consciousness is the motion or life creating the matter that it is manifesting through - consciousness is the cohesive power holding the motion together as quanta or discrete packets of energy - that our brain and senses decode as matter and that our consciousness is imprisoned in for having created it.
That is the inexorable "Law of Karma" or "As You Think / So You Become.
John Wheeler, a well known physicist at Princeton, wrote:
"May the universe in some strange sense be 'brought into being' by the
participation of those who participate ?... The vital act is the act of
participation. 'Participator' is the incontrovertible new concept given
by quantum mechanics. It strikes down the term 'observer' of
classical theory, the man who stands safely behind the thick glass
walls and watches what goes on without taking part. It can't be done,
quantum mechanics says.
dleviwing, you as well as all other materialists are "observers" behind the thick glass walls of ignorance watching what goes on without taking part.
As long as you are observers you are blind to the reality that you will experience when you become participators and experience that you bring the universe into being by your participation.
How can you ever know this unless and until you become "participators." You will remain on the outside waiting and looking for experimental data or tests that draw such conclusions which will never be your proof until you prove them for yourself.
Become "participators" uncover your own experimental data through tests and draw your own conclusions as "Participators." Stop being "observers."