Hi David, let me address my concerns this way. First, let me state, I am not trying to separate the concepts of motion from the concepts of substance, and I agree there is no beginning. Both substance and motion are one and always have existed. I disagree with your collision scenario, as I already tried that years ago, and realized its failure. I will try to show why such a scenario is voided by universal necessities of thermalicity.
The Absolute Dynamics of Universal Thermodynamics
The absolute ground state of the universe is that which it has to be, and for no other reason___necessity. We both agree the absolute void exists forever. We both agree absolute matter exists, however I say it is infinite/finite, and you say it is of a finite quantity. We both agree absolute motion exists, however I say it is infinite/finite, and you say it is a finite quantity. We both seem to agree that self-affinity/bonding is a product of motion, however I say it is a product of the highest and lowest entropy motions, and you say the highest bonding is of the lowest entropy motions. I would further state the highest bonding is of the highest entropy motions, as my model sees it. This seems to be where we stand. Neither of these views are irrational, but one is based on science, and the other is not___let's find out which is which.
The easiest rational scenario I know is my old high school debate about thermodynamics. One takes the side of low entropy existing outside high entropy and the other takes the side of low entropy existing inside high entropy___which is correct___which is possible___why is one impossible? If the model of high entropy existing outside of low entropy existed as the real ground state, the universe would have a very short life, as low entropy is a center seeking matter motion, and the high entropy outside it would consume, with low entropy's help, such a universe, in a very short timespan. This is why low entropy absolutely must exist outside high entropy___all the way to the infinite void, and including the void, itself. Any other scenario, such as what you propose as a finite quantity state of matter/motion, would designate a void that need not conform to the low entropy necessary to contain the finite S2 high entropy matter motion universe, i.e., such a scenario could have a rising temperature outside the finite matter motion distance your scenario suggests, which is clearly impossible, due to the heat death of such a universe. We both know this is not the case, therefore, in order for the universe to exist in its logical state, the low entropy state must be maintained clear through the infinite void. In order to do this, the infinite void must consist of the near zero thermal temperature throughout itself. In order for this to be the reality, motion must exist in the entire infinite void as it is scientifically temperature required, and if motion exist, it must have matter to move, thus thermal matter motion is absolutely infinite. There is no way to avoid this thermodynamic necessity of the early universe___any other scenario is unscientific and irrational to the facts of thermodynamic necessities.
If you, as you state, try to take only part of the infinite void's absolute matter motion, and designate it as the finite quantity barrier, then you are just robbing Peter to pay Paul___It can't be done, because the absolute thermodynamic equilibrium of the entire universe is put on a collision course with heat death. The absolute universe must be maintained by the balance of low thermal entropy containing forever the high thermal entropy at its self-seeking center___no matter what shape the universe, square, rectangle, triangle, star, hex, or whatever___the story is the same___absolute matter motion is center seeking, and must be eternal, as its ground state home is the eternal void. In order for your Toronic model to make sense, it must incorporate the void space's infinite matter motion into its mechanics of operations___I'd say you have considerable more theorizing to do, unless you have invented a new way around thermodynamic necessities of universal evolution.
David, everything you've already written about particle or matter clumping collisions, I've already tried, and found them to fail miserably. Much of the rest of your physics is somewhere within the ballpark of possibilities, but you can't separate infinite space thermal matter motion into finite chunks without the true map of
how. It remains a Genesis conjecture until you write the map of
How.
Am I reading you right here David?
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BTW: The lowest entropy possible is a single degree of freedom of motion. As I told JonD, that is a velocity vector of absolute motion. That is also the highest bonding state of matter. |
Are you saying the lowest entropy motion is high velocity absolute motion?
Regards,
Lloyd