[dleviwing]

Originally Posted by Lloyd I disagree with your collision scenario, as I already tried that years ago, and realized its failure.

I really don’t believe you tried very hard at any such scenario Lloyd.
You have not defined your views as to the properties of fundamental matter other than to say you agree with me. In that case you should take some time the think how this fundamental stuff of the universe is going to react to a HV impact. In today’s model it is described as a conversion of potential energy to kinetic and radiant energy; otherwise just a change in the motion state of the matter.

Originally Posted by Lloyd The easiest rational scenario I know is my old high school debate about thermodynamics.

I’m afraid you will find that a high school level thermodynamic education is not sufficient for our discussions. Did your economics courses go into thermodynamics? I would find that unusual if it did. Your post do not support your claims Lloyd

Originally Posted by Lloyd I will try to show why such a scenario is voided by universal necessities of thermalicity.

thermalicity – Not even a word recognized by Webster.

Originally Posted by Lloyd We both agree absolute matter exists

Originally Posted by Lloyd however I say it is finite, and you say it is of an infinite quantity.

If matter is infinite, then the void does not exist. This conforms to concepts of our universe being a bubble in an infinite mass of substance. I don’t bye into this one either.

Originally Posted by Lloyd The absolute ground state of the universe is that which it has to be, and for no other reason___necessity.

An absolutely meaningless statement. I would suggest that you work with the proper use of “Ground-State”. Ground-state does not apply to my scenario since I am not expressing anything in electromagnetic terms.
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