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Re: Why do people think we can apply math to things that are purely metaphysical? - 12-04-2006, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by PassatAmnesiac View Post
Why is the notion that (an) intelligent higher entity that we are not truly capable of understanding created the cosmos so absurd?
I don't think the idea is absurd. I just think it is wrong.

There are many theories that put forward your ideas. Intelligent design, anthropic principle... These receive widespread support by many well known scientists. Time magazine recently held a debate on this.

Natural Selection is a random process ... this is the process I favor.

Why?

Math can be applied to it.
It is just as good at explaining phenomena as the 'intelligent higher entity'.
It is observable.
The fossil record supports it here on earth.

Intelligent Design has as its foundation-support the incredibly high odds of the universe forming the way it did. The fact that these odds came up does not suddenly provide for a Creator.

Nevertheless the Universe is here. And Science has no answer at the moment.... lots of theories just like yours... but no proof.

Science has often been in a similar situation. We will have to wait. To me it seems just too convenient that everytime science is temporarily stonewalled, Religion, or Spiritual forces or Intelligent design spring into being as credible. For this to have credibility proof should be supplied ... but it never is.

Therefore I prefer the Devil I know to the Devil I don't know.

The other part of your question states, and I hope I got it right, that
Why should we expect to understand something that created us. Can the Hammer fully know the Carpenter... Can the Bread fully understand the Baker.

Why do you think not? The fact that this is our experience on earth should not limit us .. Quantum mechanics and Relativity are 2 things totally outside our experience ...

Greg.





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