[mkirkpatrick]

Thank you HBD for a most thoughtful thread starter,I can go along withmuch of what you say,although prehaps see its arising and expulsion a little differently.

The first cry of the universe is an excellent title,and catches the eye,I like that HBD,for
me though,I think that for any infant to "cry" even if that "infant" is a universe,like a child
born on earth,it needs parents??What do you think my friend?



regards michael.