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12-20-2006, 06:26 PM
Re: The randomness of Evolution

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Notwithstanding that the possibility (or probability for many) that intervention into the development of life here on Earth might well have been instrumental in its persistence to this day, there can be no rational argument against the compelling evidence that randomness in the process favored selection of the fittest
Baudrunner ... well said .. randomness within the process favoured natural selection ... but .. if I read you right this does not rule out Intelligent Design. Intelligent Design allows for randomness within its parameters ?

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Baudrunner....What this fact also points to is the stubborn determination that life will manifest as a matter of course, for in that time frame any number of random cataclysmic events may have affected the process to sabotage and delay the inevitable. This is just one justification for the presumption of the idea that this Universe is anthropocentric in nature.
But does the randomness of Natural Selection need intelligent Design to explain the current reality ... if not .. then Occam's razor would apply and intelligent Design would be ruled out by its complexity.

On the other hand does intelligent Design need Natural Selection. It appears that it would ... else why is there so much evidence for it. Therefore I consider Natural Selection to be a complete process within itself without the need of other operatives.

What I can't explain is 'why are we conscious of this'. There does not seem to be a need. What is Altruism ... how do we explain that by Natural Selection .. we can't deny that many species display altruisitic behaviour. The only explanation I have is that altruistic behaviour favors all selections and thereby our own species.

But as we ourselves don't reason altruistically, but do perform altruistic behaviour, could it be that a 'conscious' of the whole, underlies our actions despite our most reasoned decisions?

Could there be a consciousness that we don't see with individual reason, but operates in tune with life? the fact that we are discussing this points to something over and above natural Selection.

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