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| Baudrunner...What this fact also points to is the stubborn determination that life will manifest as a matter of course, for in that time frame any number of random cataclysmic events may have affected the process to sabotage and delay the inevitable. This is just one justification for the presumption of the idea that this Universe is anthropocentric in nature.
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Baudrunner ... I don't quite understand your last sentence above. Are you pointing this out as the justification used by those who favour Intelligent Design ... or do you promote this justification.
For me, the meaning of 'Random' and the meaning of 'anthropocentic, are opposed. I take random to mean without outside influence, in which the end cannot be predicted until the outcome is reached. Anthro to mean an outside influence by some intelligent god or process which affects the ultimate outcome prior to the process beginning
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Originally Posted by baudrunner  I have often said that the anthropic principal should be restated to say the following: ..that things are the way they are because if they were any different then that is the way that they would be, and there would still be life to observe this. You see, I believe strongly in the anthropocentric nature of this Universe. Life will happen no matter what, simply because it is a necessary predisposition to the premonition that is responsible for the "big bang", ie.- the idea that anything would exist being so staggeringly awesome and profound that it simply issues into a manifestation of reality as we now know it. The creation of the Universe was a startling revelation in and of itself, before which nothing existed, not even time, and in order for that premonition to occur, there must be the consciousness which is responsible for it. An idea cannot exist without its creator, and we are the manifestation which represents that creator. Intelligence arises out of the evolution of life because a certain level of intelligence must exist to appreciate it, and to have premonition. The design is natural order. It would be a whole lot easier to understand this if we could time-lapse the entire history of the Universe from beginning to end into an instant. Then you would see that this all is just a shocking awakening. |
I find parts of your text contradictory, but it is possible i am reading it incorrectly. If creation was a random event then no idea, premonition, or creator could exist 'a priori'
But if it is random, as I believe, then how do we account for our consciousness understanding this... as you say .. a level of intelligence must exist to formulate and have premonition.
I suppose I am stuck with the insoluable.
greg.
Michael .. I am not sure I understand involution. I fsomething had already 'folded' and was now 'unfolding' wouldn't it be doomed to play in reverse .. therby no random action or result could ever be contemplated ?
cool bananas .. greg