[Lloyd Gillespie]

Hi David, there's a misinterpretation going on here, between our reading of each's material. I do not view motion as being exchanged between objects or systems of fundamental substance (matter), what-so-ever. I have not stated that. Motion is never exchanged, it's just our measurement of fundamental and real world substances and masses___nothing more. I do not see why you would interpret what I wrote as such. I simply view temperature as pushing/squeezing substance in all directions, inward toward a center, due to hydrodynamics, as mentioned by many from Boltzmann to Wheeler and Feynmann. This only happens at the sub-quantum level of substance, your say 10^-69^3cm, which is your own size of fundamental matter, which would be sub-quantum in size, thus allowing temperature to act over such thinned fundamental substance, as it would over any non-viscous fluid or gas. The thinner the density of the fundamental substance, the easier for fundamental thermo-hydro-dynamic priority over it...

You may be interpreting what I say about thermodynamics, as acting in the quantumized universe, since big bang, which is not what I am referring to, at all. I am only referring to initial eternal linear conditions before the big-bang. IMO, thermodynamics of quantumized matter only happens to gasses and other extremely light slow moving substances. So, please try to see what I am referring to, as hardly no other physicists, as you have mentioned above of mainstream ideas, have even talked about the sub-quantum pre-big-bang realities, except for passing glances___a little by John Wheeler, etc... As another example of our differences, just take your Wingit model___you have two already quantumized spheres colliding to create quantumization___where's the initial linear to quantum quantumizer of these initial absolute velocity spheres? Where is all the motions creator, required to travel from 10^-69^3 to h+ of these spheres? So far, you've only explained it with ungrounded circular tautologies... Don't you see, I'm only trying to point out the major holes in your Wingit model, so we can fill these holes with real and possible absolutely true physics, of real and possible substance motions, and the real thermal self-creations of ground state fundamental substance motions___to state otherwise, such as absolute velocity existed, is simply another genesis model___and we are looking for a geneses model. Like I posted in the shout box___The highest probability of the highest possibility___is the only possibility. Don't you agree...?

Lloyd