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Originally Posted by Planet_Bob  Lloyd,
good point.
As we were previously discussing, there is a base tick which is taken from the most fundemental action in the Universe. [Is mass tick the most fundamental action in the universe? First motion is first mass, thus would be required to be first tick, as any matter in motion is required to have mass, and matter in motion produces friction, heat and sound mass___first tick? Just thinking...] What happens to this base tick when in the presence of a large mass or travelling at extremely high velocities - nothing. [Just as mass, it's the same everywhere, here on earth, or on the sun. Mass is mass, it increases with velocity___Newton and Einstein. And I state, all mass decreases to zero mass at true C.]
The most fundemental action takes the same time to execute no matter where it is or what velocity it is at. [Tick must be a property of mass___mass and massless mass___measure and measureless measure. Sounds contradictory, but I don't think it is. Photons are measureless mass, yet if absolutely fundamental, would have to produce both phenomena___measurelessness and measure, masslessness and mass. It would be a logical requirement of the FS, to fill all the universes logical spaces, from infinity, to the infinitesimals, to the finite.]
That the number of fundemental actions required to complete a more complex action is increased is what gives us the perception that time has been altered, but as you say, nothing has actually happened to time itself. Refer : my example of the photons around the circumference of a clock.
This does not say that the effects of the apparent dilation of time cannot be measured and there are no end of experiments out there with just such results, but almost each and everyone of them relies a theoretical substance, (I think its been mentioned enough in this thread) but does not attempt to resolve what it is actually happening. [We need state everything the photon is capable of. Is it capable of everything?]
PB. |
Hi Steven, to me, the only way the universe can make any sense, at this level, is if the FS, at some phase space state change point, has the ability to produce a substance/entity that has all state changing abilities/capabilities, as physics, thus far, has never described such a substance. An example would be fire. What is it that is actually cooling with distance? Since all such energy must actually be a real substance, what substance is cooling? Is it the electrons and protons that are cooling? If so, then what is cooling in space, where there are no electrons and protons, or at least too few to supply the cooling substance___em waves? Do em-waves cool proportional to distance from the sun? What is actually cooling? What is actually heating? You say photons can't fill this need, and since light travels as em/photon-waves, what's left to cool or heat?
I think when this question is answered, we may truly find the total mechanics to the FS. Since the Photonic FS has to produce all in the universe, what does it produce, that cools and heats, in all areas and state spaces, in the entire universe, since we absolutely know cold and hot are universal realities? Realities of what substance/entity, and how is it created? IMO, this would be the master mechanics answer to the fundamental clock of the universe, or at the least, has a great deal to do with it... I could state the question as, "How do photons heat and cool the varrying entities of the universe?" I may point out that electrodynamics and absolute velocity do not fit this need, as they are both invarriant forces, and heating and cooling are varrying dynamics, and require varrying forces, to produce such actions and or reactions. Yes, one could say absolute velocity can slow to produce cooling and cold, from its initial heat state, but then, you're left with the largest question of all, what produced absolute velocity? IMO, if one chooses absolute velocity, to base universal mechanics on, one is simply left with another religion___so I don't accept absolute velocity. Give me your responses to the problems I've pointed out, Steven...
Lloyd