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A good mantra for any scientist would be "I don't know". Found myself saying that a lot even quite young. We can get clues but we don't really know very much for sure.
There is a term that is used called "Non-space". This refers to the lack of all heavenly bodies of all sizes and also the lack of the space they may occupy. Now we could wonder if there was ever a state like that at any point in what we call time. We would have to grasp the concept of "not-being" and go to the very edge of our mental abilities and try to conceive something that is incomprehensible.
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