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04-21-2007, 03:33 PM
Re: T.o.N. (Theory of Nothing)

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Originally Posted by Lloyd Gillespie View Post
So, who cares? Get to the point....

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If you don't see it, Lloyd, it may be because you are missing the point. While reading your reply to Nobody, it seems you are saying exactly what I am saying with the model. You have to work it a bit to get the hang of it. Maybe you should ask a — or some — direct questions?

If we look at the directional model, Nobody, it is easy to see where the 'one is none' remark you made would fit in. The Northpole is the place where there is no further North left. East and West have actually disappeared as well, so the only option available at the Northpole is South. Equally, the only direction left at the Southpole is North. The 'one is none' remark can then be better understood that when we have one, only none is left. Yet this special situation only occurs within the larger 3D model; it is itself not the full answer.

We can of course argue whether the poles are specific points only or whether they are fields; I'd go for field, and find a Northpole with a few mile radius — it being that location where every step we take is not going towards North anymore (when the area is basically flat). In this larger spot, our usual directional logic of North, East, South, and West does not apply.

I delivered two specific examples of the overall model: one from a biological realm, the other from a geographical. But anything fits, as long as the information is part of the overall description, such as the four forces, or DNA.

What is important in this model is that it contains the overall understanding from a more modest point of view, instead of from 'the highest probability universe.' Stating that "the highest probability, of the highest possibility, is the only possibility" is a clear no-no-No! in this model. Only all aspects (and indeed that includes the highest possibility) deliver the TOE, not the separate parts — no matter their paramount nature (see Northpole only containing South: it is the highest possibility from this vantage point, but it is still only part of the overall picture).

I care to think of it as a modest model, for it places even the highest truths still in one overall model that contains other truths as well. The ancient peoples, for instance, buried their deaths in these models; as I see it, acknowledging this way that life itself (and matter itself) is ultimately part of a larger overall picture. With a wink to MJA, death is that big equalizer for all of us.

Let me know, Lloyd (and others), what it is that you do not see captured within this model.
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