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You couldn't witness motion, unless part of you were still, now could you? Tis also impossible for a universe to have motion, unless part of it sits still, or near as still as near 0k possible, see what I mean.

No I don't, and I don't think you do either...motion in one direction and motion in another. Yet if your intention was to go deep enough into it to realize the cancellation of frames at Planck, I would say that you're on the same track as myself.

No it's not, as there's no such thing as no substance, sorry, wrong.

We're on a roll, Lloyd. Exactly my point, there is no such thing as no substance; and there is no such thing as absolute substance. The universal state of non-existence and one motionless existence is rendered the same - all things exist through abstract motion, period!

No again, the abstract is always and eternally that, abstract___the imagination as un-reality, no matter how much DNA you dream up, it stays abstract, if it starts abstract

Right again, Lloyd. The point of the "matter" is that the abstract always remains abstract, and grants the potential to dream a new dream made real by your relative little bean.

Nobody, you're just being picky. You know very well, that when somebody says 0k, they actually mean near 0k, or one degree of freedom, since nothing else scientifically has ever been possible to produce, since the first low temperature experiments in 1935, so stop picking apart others ideas, you know are close enough to be accepted as sound.

When it comes to claims of absolute truth, yes, I'm very picky.

Sorry, but abstract/relative is the imaginative state of mind only, it never exists as an entity reality.

Yet you continue to claim otherwise, though understandably because it appears so sensible - through the senses.

This is where you mis-interpret Einstein. He never thought the abstract or relative were real entities. He always stated measurement was always based on an unknowable ground state, he referred to as relative.

If it's based on an unknowable ground state, he would have to be an ass to claim it real. The entities are probablistic waves/particles and they aren't real. The unknowable ground state is made certain through the relative dipolar positions around the zero-point position.

It seems as though you insulted, Einstein, though things are never as they seem. To me, he very much connected the field and the particles. It was his idea! And his proclamation of spacetime being illusory thinking modes; and not conditions in which we exist, can be interpreted simply as what we think are real conditions, are really based on thinking.