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Re: one universe & one instant move thru ... if available to you ... - 05-09-2007, 04:49 PM

as no reply yet i use i question from somewhere else ...

lag-time in interplanetary communication as a question ....

as a question for myself in here as additional information to you if interested in discussing...

first how to prove it takes actually 5 hours for the transmission to reach earth or rather how do you know in 2015 if receiving that it took 5 hours? we as matter transform so does our perception, the probe and its technology (somewhere else already thru transformation!again and within!) as matter transforms, the space in between transforms, em-waves transform, etz. etz. transforms and all that continous/in realtime with no way of proving without right technology ... our generous sun, similarities or other celestial bodies may still claim responsibility .... so we can just adapt to these pesky communication lags as they are not too bad .... just right right now if it takes 5 hours ... it is also very important i guess to get familiar with locals in first position .... but rather do not take them as universal ...

the supervova example was mentioned because lots of these not wavelike rays (as i suppose) are emitted rather suddenly and lots of power still available to keep (at least some of them) them linear (still not wavelike) over distance and show the light near instant as a transformation - call it: i tried to use a star to show what is near instantaneous - i could not use an example with a probe even if already at proxima centauri - it would need me to develop technology (for the example) to support transmission in being near instant ... copying the available is faster and better understood ...

as my model tells me it definately takes time (as not being instant - but my model cannot say universal how much time for us in a local position - time to me: either instant and then you can call next frame as a suns impuls for example - to me universal - if natural/celestial- but very hard to quantify if you do not controll it so can other stars/celestial bodies interfere-tricky but not impossible i guess) to transmit information thru em-waves over any distance as all this is happening probably within a time active space (i definately suppose time inactive space also exists! and if em-waves are directed towards either transform into not wavelike rays(as time inactive again) or somehow generate/initiate at position the beginning of time activity even though i think it is all very very very specific as it is approximately the same as the mentioned colliding of not wavelike rays - so there is also possibility to generate matter, etz.> interdependencies by any possible means...) -
once more: so how much time it takes you probably cannot measure easly for the local - my model suggests that you would need to control a star or rather star-like technology in terms of generating/controlling this not wave like rays - and the problem with my model we currently lack resources/knowledge by far .... it is just phantasy anyway - once more ...

overall i think if building technology on past and current (as mostly connected to the past) science theories you may always prove them right as one way to advance ...

AND even more i think humans special TIME awareness made them what they are now but i do not think time is constant ticking - the SUN(!), etz. sets pace > NOT(!) perceivable and if we are using numbers and our technology uses the same numbers - we may always think we are just right - using computing devices is also pretty interesting but i think you have to understand what they are made of: - matter - and the quantum world or beyond is more than accurate i guess . you cannot mess if always looking from a human perspective .. so are we made of matter (the same matter in time complexity for every laptop & tree +++ in the time active universe) - stars are not that dumb as they might seem especially if you look at them at clusters.... i do think that is true even though they do not think like me and you ....
  
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