Originally Posted by Lloyd Gillespie  Hi all, been on the road, so having trouble making connections...
Nobody, we as humans can never be the one, but we certainly can be aware of the one, especially when we realize the one differentiated to become two, whether aware of itself or not, the fact remains, it differentiated to become the many of one. Now why would I insist on the absoluteness of oneness into the many? And how could such a mechanic be fundamentally possible, of which the entire universe is built from?
The simplicity of the answer lies in our perception abilities. Usually if one sees a solid divided infinitesimally into the many, the perceptive training of minds, see this phenomena as irreversible, when in fact it's not. Also, usually if one sees the many divided infinitesimal many solids recombined into the one, the perceptive training of minds, see this phenomena as irreversible, when in fact it's not, again. Now, why is this the clue to the absolute fundamental mechancis of the entire universe?
I think it is you Nobody who stated that to see the universe as one, would make the vision most incomprehensible, and true enough this is, but only in one sense. That sense is the fact that it is quite overwhelming to first witness such a vision, and may take years to render it comprehensible, but it is possible, I assure you, as I have done just that, over the years. This is where your differentiation comes in, as because, when one sees themselves as the one, it's like being the so-to-speak "god". Now, when one takes this omniscient position, how does one re-render his sane consciousness back to sensible differentiation, between the one and the many, again? Well, it ain't easy, but in order to make human sense, anyone must come from the most human and humble moral position possible, for the world to accept your ideas, as no-one wants to listen to a "god"___They all want to be "god", whether male or female___Yet nobody is or can be. This position is not open, as Fredrick has pointed out, as it requires the support of the human family. Just as many have said, if Christ returned, no-one would listen, and would even stone him___Most likely true___The everyone wants to be "god" syndrome.
Now, as to the infinite/infinitesimal and the absolutivity of relativity, just for you Nobody. First, it should be pointed out from all the information agreed to by most all posters, in this thread, the position of a nothing point is impossible, therefore; that leaves only the absolute particle position of the smallest infinitesimal point, i.e., relative polar or Cartesian point co-ordinates, thus, the absolutivity of relativity. No matter how relative/abstract a point or position, it absolutely must remain fundamental particle point fact. The absolute relative abstract can never be reduced to nothing, not even the abstract relative family or color point of Fredrick's. The mind producing the abstracts is a factual particle set of absolute points of real fundamental matter___Always, eternally. This doesn't mean the mind is eternal, just the fact that its composite parts___Are!!!
As to the infinite/infinitesimal I mentioned above and above, the physical state changing abilities of fundamental matter have no bounds of confinement, as Nobody likes to try put them in. They are free to divide/multiply/transmute to all infinitesimal/infinite de-combinations/re-combinations, just as is his biological bacteria example. There are no limits to the number of infinitesimals, since as the universe becomes full of infinitesimals of the infinite, they just simply transform/transmutate in the opposite direction, toward the one. All this scientific process is controlled by the one simple fact of temperature variances, on the fundamental matters concerned. The one into the many, or the many into the one, as many times as quantumly possible, without any quantum or macro limits. Then, and only then, when the fundamental universal has no quantum restrictions, except the one degree of motion freedom, does the universe work, and work quite perfectly___All on its own.
The problem of perception has always been with breadth and focus of vision. The larger the breadth of vision, the less the concentrated focus of the small, possible. And, the greater the concentration of focus of the small, the less of the breadth of vision, possible. Everyone must combine, these two perceptions as one over-all perception, in order to see the true fundamental workings of our real universe, at all levels...
The one mechanical universe is mighty capable...
Lloyd |