[Lloyd Gillespie]

Well, we're coming closer together in our ideas, in this post Nobody. I'll see what I can add below, but by recently going over my notes of the last year, I realized "The Absolute ONE Absolute," is a non-existent, and impossible point to even define. I'd come across this before, but couldn't resolve my own thinking's theorizing, and forgot about it until recently re-discovering it. This is why I've always either used it as an adjective or verb, describing the likes of the "Infinite absolute universe." When "The Absolute ONE Absolute" is scrutinized as its "Oneness", it immediately becomes an impossible definement, i.e., our classical linguistic stumbling block, and all of society's, over the centuries. Nobody, Absolute ONE, is an absolute impossibility___There is no "Absolute ONE", ever possible. It's a scientific logical and physical impossibility, thus most likely the reason for so many accepting abstract and relative ideas, in its place.

The only trouble with this line of logical reasoning is, it eliminates the possibility of all "god" thinking, having any possibility of any kind of reasonable meaning, or sense abilities, but when one truly thinks thoroughly enough about the absolutely necessary fundamental entities, to form a universe, one will quickly realize they can never exist alone as a "ONE", because any "ONE" entity is absolutely un-definable, and totally unworkable as any forming/formation of any type of mechanical/physical universe. Just look at it this way, what is energy without matter? Matter without motion? Motion without its fundamental force? Force without its scientific definition? FS without motion and force? Not "ONE" of these entities can be described alone, and have any real meaning___It takes, at the least, "TWO", and really "THREE", to develop any credible meaning, or fundamental function. We just simply haven't looked deeply enough into the true linguistic dynamics of "ONE", and its true possible potential, as it really has None___It never exists, it's a chimera. It only exists as the parts of one universe, even at its most fundamental of levels___First actions and substances. So, in order to make any initial universal linguistic sense, we must use the discernible differentiating function of a minimal TWO and THREE entity reference, and inference points, or subjects. It's linguistically, logically and mathematically absolutely required___period.

Originally Posted by N0B0DY

"I don't know if you, yet, get my meaning, but all present concepts are, as yet, incomplete. Linguistics of philosophy, physics and economics must be expanded, to its new completeness ideal states, for any of us, to truly understand each other..."

That's what I'm trying to do, Lloyd. To make complete what is incomplete, or rather to push people to complete things for themselves, and I'm looking for people to offer pieces to further evolve the picture. Consciousness comes close, but the proper correlations have to be made or else it won't do well to support the mechanical side of things.[I completely agree.]

So when I say we extend evidence, I don't mean we make things up as we go along. It relates to extending observational laws fractally, but in such a way as to allow for the mechanics to function logically. I.e., we can't have literal dimensions expanding to create volumetric spacetime into non-volumetric spacetime - you can't step forward into a place that isn't there.[Absolutely agreed.] So, the fundamental model must be rendered abstract, and its correlating mechanics must function abstractly.[If you followed what I wrote above, you know already, I do not agree with the abstract, as I don't accept its existence having any bearing on physical evolution or reality, nor do I accept the physical existence of the physical absolute "ONE"___As it's truly all parts. It's just the chimera of the physical universe, and nothing more, in all physical reality, yet is at the same time, truly part of the theoretical abstract thinking processes of all our minds.]

I tried to come up with the best way to express why the FS has to be motionless, since the FS of space is space itself and there can be no such thing as less-concentrated spaces between concentrated forms of space - it's all the same.[This is true, but at the same time, space just by being the FS, must be still and move___both, for any possible universe to evolve. There is no physical law preventing the FS from being partially still, and moving within itself, at the same time___just as all weather systems do, or all cultures do. This is just simple systems science, everywhere.] Our contention is that matter is formed by waves in space, but there is no room for literal waves to be generated because the space is absolute.[Yes, but you seem to forget that waves are also made of the FS, as there is nothing but the physical FS, in the entire universe, moving of and within itself. It just forms waves from its infinitesimalizing mechanics of FS into what we see as waves, when in reality, is nothing but a smaller sized FS and its attendant motions.] So I still have a problem with the concept of separating phenomena in this context, because matter would have to consist of something altogether outside of the universal substrate that we're proposing.[No, not at all, if you follow what I've just written. It is you who suggested the infinitesimalizing of matter, or fractionalizing as the same, and it is I, who am agreeing with you. When you can finally see FS as the fully capable fluid changeling, that it truly is, you will see the thermal mechanics of FS works just fine, all the way from spheroidal infinity, to finiteness, and back, creating the full cycling universe, and not the cyclic universe, prone to false origins and actions.]

That doesn't mean we can suggest anything we want, only that the medium and wave-particle probabilities can't ever change.[And here is where you fail to see, they do and must change, to make any mechanical scientific sense of the real universe. The real and complete universe is a two stage wave medium of infinite thermal in-waves, creating the electrodynamic out-waves. These are two discrete thermodynamic systems of cold and hot motions and velocities, as electrodynamics keeps you stuck at c, and only thermal velocities allow the slower velocities, we actually recognize in the real universe. It's the differences of these two system, makes the universe function mechanically properly, and completely. Without a two system motion system, scientific thinking will always be condemned to a logical hell, it cannot escape. This two system motion system is nothing I'm dreaming up___It's absolutely obvious, if one just looks at the empirical facts___truly, for a change.] Yet, photons/gravitons can serve as spacetime according to the space between wavelengths and amplitudes because they are createdbytime dilation[If you actually mean distance here, I agree, i.e., time dilation is distance matter moves.] (created from antimatter which reduces amplitude and frequency to zero - a type of out-of-phase relationship.[The only antimatter definition I can agree with is, thermal linear motion dark matter FS, before first finite electrodynamic singularity, producing first quantumized angular/spin matter/motions.] So, asymmetry must then be created through the confinement of gravitons, matter and antimatter working against each other to slow down events incrementally to the detectible spectrum which are measured at peak or valley events, but never both which together I propose is the photon/graviton itself.[I agree with the photon/graviton part of your thinking, but the slowing is from initial thermal conditions, and not the incremental slowing of c. C slows according to matter density, but FS matter density of thermals also speeds and slows the FS, existing before any first star of electromagnetic light. The truest answers lie more in the dark side of our theoretical universe, than on the light side. And, these theoretical ideas are all knowable by a true correspondence logic, of finiteness to infinity.] Sort of like the photon-hole model of matter through gravitational time reversal, and this process results in the spherical, helical and a-helical structures of all particles because they are all formed from electromagnetism/gravity, with hydrogen formation and bonding occurring between annihilation events.[Separate out electrodynamics from the more true thermodyamics of the universe, and you'll have a better picture of reality.]

Hope this helps,
Lloyd

p.s.
I'm only part way through my notes, but they already contain all the proofs of infinity, FS, thermals, and fundamental motions. As far as I can remember, the rest of the notes only further back up my correspondence reasonings with more evidential logic, empiricism and math. I'll let you know all the results, when I complete editing my notes...