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06-27-2007, 03:36 PM
Re: Matter is everything in a void:

And David, you are just trying to shunt everything out into QM, again. You accept QM as your fundamental method of seeing the universe, and I use CM(celestial mechanics) as my preferred method of fundamental understanding of seeing the universe. Your statement, "Temperature and pressure have no relevance when we view reality at its most fundamental levels...", is wrong and has no relavance to my way of seeing the most fundamental level. According to your way of looking at the universe, temperatures and pressures would have no affect on gasses,{ridiculous} which are most likely the most fundamental of substances, and I mean what helium and hydrogen may possibly break down too, he4-7 and h3-4 etc. Physics is only on the cutting edge of such scientific breakthroughs, and as you yourself have admitted, the FS you talk about may be a non-viscous fluid. Well, what to hell is a gas, if not a non-viscous fluid, and they've already been discovered in four areas of solid physics experiments? David, your non-viscous fluid FS may even be a photonic gas or yet undiscovered plasma??? This is what we need be looking at, then you may understand why temperature and pressure are so important to fundamental levels of any sound first physics theory or fact...

The fundamental is a minimum of two sources, maybe more___My choice remains, Thermal, A FS, and their motion dynamics. Thermal absolutely must be one first, as it's verifiable by decay mechanics science, math and facts. And, You have no other science possible to produce Cold, since your absolute motion is always heat, by scientific necessity???

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Originally Posted by dleviwing View Post
Lloyd;
What I’ve been trying to get across is that when we talk about terminology of measurement such as temperature, voltage, flux, pressure, and so on, we are talking about a specific distribution of absolute motion within a system. Though I suppose all motion can be viewed as velocity if you make the time increment short enough, Absolute motion in most systems is a distribution consisting of various types of motion. Wave motion is the predominant type of motion but linear and angular are also types of motion. The primary thing to remember is that uniform motion results in the property of matter we call inertia and thus it is this motion that gives us our concept of MASS. Wave symmetry is a type of uniform motion and it is this type that produces our concepts of point particles.

Those who understand wave mechanics quickly grasp the interactions of fundamental matter when the concept of absolute motion and self-affinity properties are applied. Attempting to discuss wave mechanic with novice members has proven to be far to difficult, so I have kept the discussions more simplified. Temperature and pressure have no relevance when we view reality at its most fundamental levels, just as computer programming languages have no relevance when you discuss the bits and bytes level of machine code. You seem to be the one who wishes to discuss fundamentals using the higher level terminology, not me. At this fundamental level you can only view motion and bonding properties as being significant.
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