[Profpat]

Hi Austin;

I liked your poem on Love better than The Vanishing.

I agree with you that most atrocities occur in the name of God, Country, and Economics.

I find wisdom and value in all the ancient and sacred texts. Including, but not limited to the Bible. The I Ching, The Tao, The Bhagavad-Gita, the works of Plato and Aristotle, and on and on. They are not necessarily the Absolute Truth, but guidance and wisdom.

Myself I only believe in 3 Miracles which I mentioned to you before as: Creation. Life. and Intelligent Life.

Lets see what the Bible has to say about creation, OK?

"In the beginning God created the heavens ( small h,could mean anything, stuff, strings, etc.) and the Earth. And the Earth was without form and void.And God said let there be light...."

In the 1950,s science was telling me about this steady state universe that always was. and will be. All to often I think people confuse the universe with God.

So now science agrees with the Bible on this one, and for the most part, on the other evolutionary steps of creation.

Also, the Bible has Adam being formed from dirt.(stardust how insightful on behalf of the Bible] " for dust you are and dust you shall always be".

Remember this was written in BC or should I say BCE time.

I'm not trying to defend the Bible here, I'm just trying to point out that there is wisdom in it. And since this is an intelligent design thread I thought it might be appropriate.

Of course there is no hard feelings and I do enjoy the discourse.

Profpat






Remember this was written in BC or should I say BCE