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I think that everyone who has taken part in this thread, understandably, clings to what seems to be so real. To feel is to be real, and the feeling is so strong that to think all is unreal is simply unrealistic. Many think that abstract reality and reality should be different, instead of different abstract bases governed by the means of differentiating experiences and thoughts. The means is consciousness, and is perhaps where we differ most in that consciousness is not a thing, not a mind or brain. It is abstract, and if capable of producing reality through an abstract process (or as THoR suggests, based on an abstract principle), then reality can't be rendered as a physical reality.

I remember you mentioning the ball, Fredrick, and understand the frustration of trying to depict the truth, but contextually the whole truth equates to nothing and trying to ascertain the whole truth is synonymous to trying to picture or understand nothingness. It can't be done because it requires that the ego doesn't exist, and the ego is required to perceive and conceive. There is an infinitely-fine line between the infinite and the absolute, and the best one could do would be to have an awareness of an infinite number of half truths that could theoretically be pieced together to attain infinite knowledge. This is precisely what I proclaim the sublevels of consciousness do to calculate and set the laws of quantum and macroscopic nature, but is, again, a far cry from absolute knowledge acquired by the universe's capacity to not exist. Similar to the vedic depictions of the universe being beyond existence and non-existence - both and neither.

The transmission of information requires differentiating factors, and only an absolutely static and hence non-existent universe can differentiate the whole of differentiating factors - the whole truth. Only the absolute medium can differentiate the infinitesimal waves that carry information, and only the absolute medium is unbound with respect to space and time. The moment there is a concept of motion, is the moment speed becomes a factor in the transmission of events from point to point in time and space. So eventhough having a close relationship, linguistically, realizing the specific nature and lack thereof of the infinite/eternal and the absolute, reveals the differences. It would take an eternity for information to be transmitted across an infinite universe, even at infinite speed, but would take no time at all for the absloute universe to recreate any event at any point in time and space because there is no such thing as time or space to the absolute universe. To perhaps picture this, we could try to imagine a localized event occurring anywhere, as occurring everywhere, because to the absolute universe it is occurring nowhere - interactions are instantaneous.

Reverting to the ball, the absolute center of the "real" ball is as abstract as the exterior of the ball. The determining factor that renders the internal functioning and form of the ball as abstract, is that the central abstract point carries through neighboring abstract centers that of course meet with the abstract exterior - all points are central.

So I simply conclude that there is only a single abstract non-dimensional point, a black hole of you wish, and the functioning and form are illusory - summed up as G=mc^2.