[mkirkpatrick]

[quote=Profpat;33712]

Originally Posted by mkirkpatrick

I am one,and "I" transcend matter,time,and space,therefore,I am,within the eternal now,
and without need of motion,as "I" am ubiquitous,now I am also within temporal space
and also informed of dence matter,so here in the illusary relative universe "things" are
very different from the "Thing" of the absolute.

Michael that quote describes the epiphany I experienced when I tranced myself and had the OBE, where only darkness and light existed, and knowledge of what is real.(Only darkness and light all else illusion ) No Profpat only I AM.
Well put my friend, and an interesting thread I somehow missed.

But I don't think, time, space or motion are illusions rather they are concepts. Man made definitions.
Its matter that is the illusion, and therefore we have problems with measurement, in that we are measuring an illusion.
Something that you pointed out ( correctly )is relative and not absolute.

Well just some thoughts I had.

Best to all,

Pat

Thanks Pat,when we look out with our physical eyes,we become confused with the "many"
when we look within,with the eyes of conscious consciousness,we see a far different picture unfolding before us.All that seems without is in reality an illusion.

regards michael.