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Originally Posted by subversion mustn't you be a philosopher before you can be a scientist? |
I don't think exactly like this.
Althouh Antonio, The 1st philosophers WHERE the 1st scientists. Not the other way round. It wasn't that they applied science methods to phlosophy, but philosophy methods to science. They call it philosophy of nature. It was done by the anciant greek philosophers. For example, the 4 esential materials (water, fire, air, earth) was a philosophic proposition for scientific natural understanding. I think that Thales was both the first scientist and philosopher, but not very develpoed these two. So the first "real" philosopher can be said to be Socrates and the first "real" scientist can be said to be Archemides.
Now, who was the first mathematician? what determiens it? was it the first one to count? or the first one to do mathematical works (easy arithmetic and geometry)? Maybe the Egyptians for geometry for the Pyramids?