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Benedict Broere · **Alternative TOE -** 10-23-2007, 08:00 AM

Some time ago I presented my possible TOE here in a thread, but it doesn’t seem to generate much response. Maybe I used the wrong words, so let me try again, I’m just looking for some feedback.

Traditionally TOE is expected to explain ‘everything’ out of some kind of formula that unifies the most general forces. This with the thought that out of this reductionist Buttom-Up-point-of-view it is possible to explain the whole hierarchy of complexity all the way up to let’s say human consciousness. But meanwhile it has become well-known that because of the phenomenon ‘emergence’ this approach is way to optimistic. Of course the whole undertaking is very exciting and any success in integration of the general forces will be a giant leap forwards, but it hardly can be expected that it will give an explanation of the more complex phenomena. Therefore an alternative to consider would be the opposite Top-Down-approach, that starts with looking at the complex phenomena themselves and their behaviour. What will mean integrating the very general patterns and forms of order we see occurring in the scientific disciplines and mathematics. It would mean of course a kind of enterprise in the sense of ontology, although we know for sure it won’t give us certainty concerning the true nature of reality, because we haven’t got an absolute view on reality that would enable us to check it. But still concerning human behaviour in the context of nature and universe in general, it would give us something that certainly is open for refutation. I would like to present here an idea in the latter meaning, a possible essential order I call aos. And estimating it will be controversial, I would like to ask you: “What do you think of it?”

This aos is described in the website http://aosbenm.nl

Info on emergence can be found in http://www.edge.org/3rd_culture/kauffman06/kauffman06_index.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergence
And elsewhere of course.

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Benedict Broere Brown Belt Status: Offline Posts: 185 Thanks Given: 0 Thanked 9x in 8 Posts Join Date: Apr 2006 Rep Power: 11	Alternative TOE - 10-23-2007, 08:00 AM Some time ago I presented my possible TOE here in a thread, but it doesn’t seem to generate much response. Maybe I used the wrong words, so let me try again, I’m just looking for some feedback. Traditionally TOE is expected to explain ‘everything’ out of some kind of formula that unifies the most general forces. This with the thought that out of this reductionist Buttom-Up-point-of-view it is possible to explain the whole hierarchy of complexity all the way up to let’s say human consciousness. But meanwhile it has become well-known that because of the phenomenon ‘emergence’ this approach is way to optimistic. Of course the whole undertaking is very exciting and any success in integration of the general forces will be a giant leap forwards, but it hardly can be expected that it will give an explanation of the more complex phenomena. Therefore an alternative to consider would be the opposite Top-Down-approach, that starts with looking at the complex phenomena themselves and their behaviour. What will mean integrating the very general patterns and forms of order we see occurring in the scientific disciplines and mathematics. It would mean of course a kind of enterprise in the sense of ontology, although we know for sure it won’t give us certainty concerning the true nature of reality, because we haven’t got an absolute view on reality that would enable us to check it. But still concerning human behaviour in the context of nature and universe in general, it would give us something that certainly is open for refutation. I would like to present here an idea in the latter meaning, a possible essential order I call aos. And estimating it will be controversial, I would like to ask you: “What do you think of it?” This aos is described in the website http://aosbenm.nl Info on emergence can be found in http://www.edge.org/3rd_culture/kauffman06/kauffman06_index.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergence And elsewhere of course.