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Originally Posted by neutralino  Note that nowhere in the big bang theory does it state "the universe exploded into existence," or in fact anything to do with explosions!
I have no idea why you would quote an article that says "something might happen." How does Hawking's announcement on the lack of an information paradox in Dublin in 2004 have any relation to what you are trying to talk about here? Do you think this shows that black holes do not exist?
Also, note that Hawking is a professor at Cambridge, not Oxford. |
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http://www.catholiceducation.org/art...ce/sc0022.html
In the winter of 1998, two separate teams of astronomers in Berkeley, California, made a similar, startling discovery. They were both observing supernovae — exploding stars visible over great distances — to see how fast the universe is expanding. In accordance with prevailing scientific wisdom, the astronomers expected to find the rate of expansion to be decreasing, Instead they found it to be increasing — a discovery which has since “shaken astronomy to its core” (
Astronomy, October 1999).
This discovery would have come as no surprise to Georges Lemaitre (1894-1966), a Belgian mathematician and Catholic priest who developed the theory of the Big Bang. Lemaitre described the beginning of the universe as a burst of fireworks, comparing galaxies to the burning embers spreading out in a growing sphere from the center of the burst. He believed this burst of fireworks was the beginning of time, taking place on “a day without yesterday.” After decades of struggle, other scientists came to accept the Big Bang as fact. But while most scientists — including the mathematician Stephen Hawking — predicted that gravity would eventually slow down the expansion of the universe and make the universe fall back toward its center, Lemaitre believed that the universe would keep expanding. He argued that the Big Bang was a unique event, while other scientists believed that the universe would shrink to the point of another Big Bang, and so on. The observations made in Berkeley supported Lemaitre’s contention that the Big Bang was in fact “a day without yesterday.” When Georges Lemaitre was born in Charleroi, Belgium, most scientists thought that the universe was infinite in age and constant in its general appearance. The work of Isaac Newton and James C. Maxwell suggested an eternal universe. When Albert Einstein first published his theory of relativity in 1916, it seemed to confirm that the universe had gone on forever, stable and unchanging. _____________________________
To this day, black holes have yet to be proven.
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Duely noted that Hawking is a professor at Cambridge, not Oxford.
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Your beginning quote:
"Note that nowhere in the big bang theory does it state "the universe exploded into existence," or in fact anything to do with explosions!" ________________________________ You mean that in today's vigorously renovated and shored up big bang, there is no where to be found any trace of it's original (Lemaitre) presentation as an explosive event... -------------------- Your prior quotes in this thread: Your flagrant lack of knowledge of basic cosmology, and physics, is somewhat baffling, especially since you seem to constantly question the foundations of these subjects. The big bang theory is taken as standard cosmology, and is not being questioned by any large number of cosmologists. *I would like to urge you to read up on some basic cosmology: I have provided many links in my thread in this subforum, precisely so that we can avoid having to explain the standard view again and again. I also think you should clarify what is in the standard model, and what is not. (Can you properly represent the original work of *Lemaitre?) In my opinion, and I think I speak for the majority of scientists here, one cannot critisize a theory if one does not understand the *basics of it!! (Who could reasonably disagree with that?) ____________________________ - RP http://forums.delphiforums.com/EinsteinGroupie