[Graybeard]

Originally Posted by folla rule

<hmm's>.. you know David, i'm beginning to get a feel for your point of view... what IS to be done with the imaginative sorts who brandish about sweeping statements, ideas and generalising premises that threaten to rock the status quo!

lets burn them for being ridiculous... let us stake them out in the garden and sew their eyelids open so that the crows may feast upon their eyeballs!....

or.... lets listen and consider what they have to say.... the potential or mileage there might be in entertaining new ideas with the possibility of accommodating them... i guess its all a matter of perspective as to what constitutes 'real science'

I don't think it is just a matter of perspective. Science is required to be objective and 'perspectives' are subjective ...alto I have been known to get mixed up with things ending in '......ives'

From the Wiki .....Scientific method is a body of techniques for investigating phenomena, acquiring new knowledge, or correcting and integrating previous knowledge. It is based on gathering observable, empirical and measurable evidence subject to specific principles of reasoning. The scientific method consists of the collection of data through observation and experimentation, and the formulation and testing of hypotheses.

Scientific methodology is also required to be transparent ... available to anyone .. the full source code.

Originally Posted by folla rule

what's more without sounding pedantic.... i only likened 'religious belief' (as distinct from religion) to 'science'... this to me is where, to my naive watching you appear to have made a galactic leap into sci-fi.....

I agree with you, I think Dave missed this

Originally Posted by folla rule

finally, i'd like to thank you for the kind words re my education... i do appreciate being appreciated, but i do wonder as to your concluding this all from a sum total of two posts... surely you need to empirically study me much much more Ellie...

Welcome to the forum Ellie, you write very well even tho I am only drawing this conclusion from three posts .... its one more than Dave

cool bananas & keep posting ... greg