Originally Posted by Lloyd Gillespie  I didn't say math didn't help our understanding, I said it was secondary, not primary. Do you remember it was Einstein's vision of riding on a photon, that lead his search for the math to prove it...? Substance/object first. Math second...
Where's your fundamental substance/object, so we may have a starting point...? Math is not a ligitimate fundamental starting point of any reality... It must relate to a subject/object___First...!
And btw, I already read the above link, no need to advertise nonsense any further... Your theory of nothing/everything is the mere concept of your own desires, and nothing more, and I might add, not true, not science, not math, not anything... Fredrick, the concept of the concept, is no more than the concept of one's own pre-scientific ego desires... You can't start any realities, from mere imaginal abstract insignificances...
You know, I think sometimes, that many of you don't even realize, I once had the same fundamental natural intuitive-logic searching brain, as do many of you. I evolved... And as I've stated before, and being a wise-guy: "As you are, I once was. As I am, you never will be"...
Lloyd |