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Originally Posted by Lloyd Gillespie 
You haven't got me to any point of yours yet, Fredrick. In order to communicate with me, you must choose one track or the other___Either straight art/feelings/aesthetics, or straight objective, and or, abstract a-priori mathematical logic, or straight mathematical logic___The profound fundamental common sense...
Lloyd
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You know, from these communications with all on this forum, I think the real problem is just learning the requirements of this new electronic medium to get our points across to others.
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Your reply is loud and clear, Lloyd. I have no problems understanding you. You do not want to communicate when it is about the real basics, only about the established/accepted basics (of course they overlap). You demand of me to make a choice, but making a choice is exactly the crux of the matter. It is part and parcel of the toe.
It should not be a problem for an intelligent person like you to understand the essence of my words, Lloyd. And if you want to talk about the mathematical basics only, please, do so, but don't use names and theories. Give me the specific essence of what you are trying to say when you are using big names and theories.