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Re: Organized warfare. - 01-01-2008, 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Graybeard View Post
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Well ... If we talk about any warfare then I would say 'Both'

No animal fights unless it has to.

Inherent:
Because we could in theory show an unbroken chain of wars back to the first turf war. Someone might object by pointing out that the combatants in the first turf war had no one to inherit it from. I would reply that it just existed in other forms such as 'pecking order, Alpha males, Alpha females, etc proving that we inherit it from a time prior to conditioning.

Conditioning:
Because we have managed to keep it in pace with technology.


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PS: Hey ... Did you notice that this reply says nothing about the right/wrong of warfare but still answers your question ... its 18 hours into new year here and i am fairly pissed (hic) ... LOL
Sounds like that's founded in the a priori nature school.

There's a place for it in the topic, whereas, it's natural selection instinct and not organized warfare (acknowledging that humans are animals).

Co-specific aggression is when the same species makes war on itself.
(Specific aggression - violence - is usually for food; when not for food then declaration of territory and very often not to the death...)

I don't expect that's news to you, though.

Humans have the capacity to displace the violence with displays of physical and mental prowess (to determine which mate the female will select), without bringing harm to each other. Animals fighting in context of natural selection usually don't engage in mortal combat, while they determine who is more powerful and/or resilient.

On the other hand, the latent animal instinct of heirarchy organisation can be actively organised - then you have the definition of warfare. Organised warfare - as you are apparently aware - is when an industry - and a society - fortifys it.

Several of the major warmakers were motivated to conquer all, to put an end to war.

A timely example of this is certain interpretations of the Koran (Quoran/Quran), which is motivated to conquer and convert, with the objective of ending war by placing everyone under the same pennant, by force if necessary...

We're 2 1/2 hrs (hic) into 2008 here on the East Coast of the USA.

Would like to here some more from you about this, Greg.

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