Drifter I will try and clarify in regards to this trinity/triune of stability.
"Spirit" can be either:
1)
physical( energy/energetic ) ergo fermions, bosons and any aggregate accumulation thereof and;
2)
metaphysical( intent ) ergo abstract conceptuality of mind ergo limited free will abilities of choice.
When "spirit" is both then we have a biological/soul, to varying degrees of complexity, with *woman* being the most complex biological, known to humans.
Man comes in at close second.
The most simple biological/soul is probably a bacteria.
Some may even say that a virus is the most simple biological, however, a virus has either RNA or DNA, never both ergo it appears to be a "twilight organism" ( R.B. Fuller ), being between a animate biological/soul and inanimate mineral.
I hope this helps make *clear* that spirit and soul are not some mystical 'thing' that have no easily rational and logical definition that a 10 year old cannot begin to grasp scientifically.
"Science is the putting in order the facts of our experiences"( somebody via Fuller )
All knowledge is based in experience, whether direct experience or as comunicated by someone elses experience.
This is not to say that our experiences can be mispercieved, i.e. what we believe to be the facts are not neccesarily the facts, in all cases.
Rybo
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Originally Posted by Drifter  Noumenon and phenomenon? This and That? This is within That? anyway?
First the world of spirit or the formless abstract world of subjective consciousness is not recognised in a scientific sense. It is recognised innately by those of mystic temperament, and by those who are able to study the subjective history of men and races [i.e. Joesph Campbell], but science recognises not this aspect of manifestation, nor do scientific men, as a whole, believe in the world of super-physical endeavor. All that in the earlier races held paramount place in the lives and thoughts of the people is now approached skeptically, and discussions are preceeded with a question mark. But progress has been made and much has arisen out of the war. The question, for instance, is rapidly changing from the formula "is there life ater death?" to the enquiry "Of what nature is the future life?" and this is a portent of much encouragement.
I don't need science's holy word to know what I have first hand expereinced, pertaining to the soul and/or astral body. Science simply hasn't progressed far enough along in that endeavor and when it does, decide to put in the effort, and finally verifies it for you last hold-outs and those whom you influence [with this obstinance] , it will have egg on its face and so will you. |