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Re: An Idea - 01-12-2008, 11:38 AM

The Transition to the Awakened Consciousness is a Copernican change
which not only transforms the essential level of the individual
involved, but alters his whole relationship to the subject-object world
as well. When Copernicus demonstrated the superior power unfolded by
regarding the sun, rather than the earth, as the center of the solar
system, the world was not destroyed as an empirical fact, but its
relationship and significance within the whole was radically changed.
This transformation, while affecting astronomy most immediately,
produced secondary effects with ramifications reaching far into
different phases of social life. This change has brought about
enormous clarification with respect to many vitally important problems
that had formerly been quite obscure. The Awakening involves such a
change, only in a much more radical sense. When It has come, the whole
life of the individual is affected, and part of the effect is a
profound clarification and simplification of a vast number of
obscurities. So much is this the case that if the Awakened Man chooses
to direct His force within the subject-object field, then in whatever
compartment He may focus His attention He has superior capacity as
compared to others who have not the advantage of His perspective. He
now looks down on things in their relationships, rather than being
involved in those relationships. The highest excellence in government,
business, engineering, science, religion, art, etc. are at His command,
restricted only by the limitations of his personal vehicle. But before
man can operate upon relationships from Above, he must first break his
bondage within those relationships, and in part this is represented by
unlearning what has been previously learned.


It does not follow that all previously acquired knowledge will be
found false. To a greater or lesser extent, the Realized Man may still
be able to judge it correct. Its Significance, however, will be
radically changed, and He will be enabled to tie together parts that
formerly had been irreconcilable. He stands outside and above the
'game', as it were, and so is enabled to play with a master's hand.
Even though from the highest standpoint relative or subject-object
knowledge has been completely Transcended and no longer affords a
field of function, it does therefore allow that it has not served a
useful purpose in its time. Man builds a certain integration while in
the subject-object field without which recognition, as a self-
conscious achievement, is impossible. The training in subject-object
knowledge serves something of the function of a scaffold in the
construction of a building, When the building is ready, the
scaffolding may be and should be abandoned, for it ceases to be, in
general, any longer valuable. The man may now enter the building
which, in this case, represents the Transcendent or Cosmic
Consciousness. However, a scaffolding should not be wrecked while
workmen are still standing upon it. So the Compassionate Man who has
found the Building to be ready and then enters into It will also leave
the scaffolding standing until all the others have likewise left it
and Entered In.


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Drifter, I too believe that all fermions and bosons have some degree of conscious awareness ergo some degree of consciousness, however, there distnctioins to be made.

All the physical stuff is "spirit". A biological/soul is one such distinction that I make and at is commonly taught in all deucational formats, that i'm aware of, barring the one-to-one association with "soul" that I make.

You also appear to believe there is somthing called "ensoulment" which I understand you too mean that there was something with no soul/biological life content and then all of sudden it does.

This is where you and I differ i.e. I think the trinity/triune that I've laid out is eternally existent or at mimimum there exists eternally a gravitational, spacetime mapping for such for all spirit and biollogicals/souls to become manifest physically.

In this latter sense spirit and biological/soul equate to gravitational spacetime as being( functioning as ) the quasi-physical buffer-zone, existent at ultra-micro-scales, and between the metaphysical and the physical.

1) metaphysical macro-infinite spatiality beyond the finite physical universe but also transposes( one-to-one ) as --i.e. has subcatagory therof-- asbstract concepts of mind.

2) spirit when patterned as biological/soul with access to metaphysical mind --to varying degrees-- transposes( one-to-one ) as the quasi-physical gravitational spacetime buffer-zone between physical and metaphysical.

3) physical fermions and bosons and any aggragates thereof.

As for your comments of "facts of truth" that you experineced first hand, I don't recall exactly what it is your talking about Drifter. Sorry.

Rybo




QUOTE=Drifter;44498]"Spirit " can be ensouled. As man can be ensouled. One is physical and one is metaphysical.
In seperation one has an affinity for physical/ephemeral/and mortality. [and an aversion to the other]
One has an affinity for for the metaphysical/etherical/immortality. [and an aversion to the other]
I believe even the single celled omeba is constructed of molecules and elements, which have a conscious [ness] aversion or affinity to others of the same plane, and a morphing, if you will into a new substance. Similar to but different from the former on the evolutionary ladder. Two but not two.

Experiences can also be mis-believed because the observing/listening to the explanation/storyformula/diagram has no direct knowledge of what is being related too.

as i said before i have experienced it first hand, you dismiss this "fact of truth" if you wish, but it will not influence me and and what I know from the experience.

some have eyes to see and ears to hear and,
some don't.
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