[mkirkpatrick]

Originally Posted by not2too

Certainly, the lucid dream experiments will wake you up during ordinary night time dreaming and an analogy can be drawn from this to "waking up to the dream" of ordinary day time "wakefulness", which is the dreamstate I have been referring to - samsara. The important thing to wake up from is the illusion that your ego/persona is the real you. It does not have to be destroyed, just not identified with all the time (which it will protest against). It can be a useful tool as long as one is awake to its fictitious condition.(Forgive me for preaching to the choir.)

I hear you loud and clear,and of course agree,great to have your input here not2too.



regards michael.