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Originally Posted by <<>> I developed this one thanks to a discussion with Antonio.
Change to occur requiers time. But if you think about it, change impplies invariance. Invariance impplies that there is no change. No change impplies no time.
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Guille... you should look at arguements regarding increasing/decreasing entropy within a given system for this one. Hawking discusses it in alot of his work, but I think the argument is flawed.
1. Change requires time (thats fine). But looking at it from a entropy point of view, then change can only occur in a system so long as EVENTUALLY the system changes back to its original state... in which case, how would you measure the time?
2. Change requires time, but relates only to a change or the order of a given system. If the order of a given system at the most basic level is measured by the relationships of all atoms (or quarks etc) in relation to eachother, then this means that the measurement of change in these relationships must be a measurement of Time. Ergo, Change does not REQUIRE time, so much that Change is itself measured by time. To put it another way.... time is how we measure measurable changes, and subsequently the progression of changes. Measuring time in hours, minutes and seconds is a way of constantly measuring changes within our own relative area of the universe. Specialist measurements (planck time) are used for measuring the relative changes in the universe that are not ordinarily observable. To summarise... on a basic level, change IS time. The maximum amount of change that can take place between any two points in time is limited by C.
I think Bob Dylan said it best when he said:
"Oh the Times, they are a'changing"
DG