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Originally Posted by bottomlander  Yes, quanta07. You really ponder the human intellectual paradigm in-depth.
I agree with your statement "Using the tools to gain knowledge is a scientific path (clarity)".
Using those scientific tools in a mainstream manner will bring out clear and safe but actually routine works.
Employing the flexibilities of math/equations can bring out rigorously derived frontier works.
However, just mainstream and frontier works are still insufficient to complete a TOE.
Philosophy analyzes will probe deeper and wider than the paths and coverage of physics/GUT.
The bottomland of Nature, IMHO, needs philosophy studies.
Those applications needs physics (and technology).
The wonderland of modern physics provide many good topics to sci-fi.
PreTOE Cosmic Enquiry is now taken care by metaphysics.
Best Regards. Bottomlander
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Obviously, I agree Bottomlander. I think that at a certain point we have to take a few steps back, and have a good look at what the scientific perspective has yielded. Otherwise we "can't see the forest for the trees". A TOE must provide a view of the forest.
As far as your statement:
"Talk about the tools…or use the tools
Question the process of consciousness OR use process of consciousness
Philosophers question the questions…Scientists question the answers.
And nary the twain shall meet……"
Q7, there are methodologies which do USE the process of consciousness as a tool, not just question it, which I will be presenting in this discussion.
(I will not be advocating that scientists become meditators...i.e. use this method before criticizing or dismissing the results...as others, e.g. Ken Wilber, have done.) There are other effective methods which use consciousness to explore the nature of reality that have been developed by scientists (physicists and psychologists) and will be presented.
Best,
not2too