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Originally Posted by N0B0DY  Q7,
You had said that consciousness is the illusion and not the empirical reality observed via the scientific method, but if you then say that consciousness provides the required tools for empirical science, it translates into the tools and anything the tools interpret as reality being illusory as well. This part of it is simple logic, though perhaps counter-intuitive because reality is deemed opposite illusion.
The more difficult aspect is actually using the scientific method as a means to justify the proposition for illusory reality. Whereby, strictly speaking, if it is not observed it isn't real; then using this consciously-based method of empiricism, we can infer that proclamations of an illusory reality are in fact more scientific than proclamations of an unobservably-deduced, a priori objective environmental reality.
For you to prove that there is an objective reality other than that subjectively-observed, you would have to be unconscious to observe it. |
Q7...
I have never said that it is consciousness that is the illusion. That is what you stated in a previous post...
"Simply put............NO
consciousness is the illusion.......Our enviroment is real........no illusions
Noted environmental behavior stems from confirmed and reconfirmed observation accepted as law.
The behavior is real and can be mapped to an equation. modeled, reproduced at will." (from Q7)
My contention is that it is consciousness that is primary, non-contingent, and that what we take to be reality arises from consciousness...is co-created by consciousness...contingent upon consciousness for its existence...
More in my next post.
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