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Originally Posted by dleviwing

The fundamental substance is indeed measurable and is measured quite often. We measure it as gravity, charge, mass, energy, magnetism, and so on. You must have misunderstood what I was saying. We can only know the FS by its attributes and behavior; like we know most anything or anyone.

I like the phrase out of Star Trek IV: “Nothing unreal exists”. A little imagination quite often leads to a lot of unreal interpretations of the numbers represented by empirical data.

I would reply to the rest of your post but I don’t know how to interpret your imagination into my reality.

I thought you stressed the importance of knowing the difference between measurement and entity in your earlier message, Dave, and therefore implying that the fundamental measurements are different than the totality of the entity. Or did you edit it because they were not supposed to be stressed?

At any rate, I can understand your scientific predicament, but empirical and theoretical science must be considered limited and as such unable to fully describe the above totality. For instance, studying – and knowing – what your toe nail is won't lead to more than a limited understanding of what and who you are in your enitirety. Yet, the simplicity of understanding the process of which observations are made possible, by using inverse laws to understand the totality of such a process can lead us to ascertaining what the entity is and isn't without using empirical science.

When energy increases infinitely toward singularities, we have an almost perfect conversion of mass to energy; the absolute conversion then must equal the singularities at the absolute-zero point; and because these zero-dimensional points are at t=0, the totality of all singularities equals one zero-dimensional singularity (the changeless “entity” that just can't change, or contain any hitherto literal universes).

“Imagination is more important than knowledge.” (What Life Means to Einstein, 1929)