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Originally Posted by analog If I understand right, wouldn't this definition you gave inevitably give rise to another absolute, which I feel you might be neglecting.

If you are referring to the relative absolutes of science, then I philosophically – logically – reject them because they don’t contextually apply to a single independent state. I don’t think it is possible to define relative as absolute, or vice-versa.

Originally Posted by analog If percieved motion is entangled with a division of absolute rest into infinite numbers of points, there would be increments between those points as you have said. This brings time into the picture because of how you related it to space, but what of the other time this unwittingly creates.

Like the saying, “There is no time like the present.” The only time created in the present can be a past time. You can say that the mind has a pastime of creating a history that no longer exists, and when we consider that each timeframe is dependent on past conditions that don’t exist, we can conclude that the immediate present and the conditions that create it lie within the absolute center of where you are right “now” - from a single point because even an infinite number of zero-dimensional points equal the same number of points, namely none.

Originally Posted by analog If the divisions are incremental and they are happening throughout space, something must sink them together, else there would be no proof of action reaction, or what happened when. These divisions could be happening more frequently on one side of the galaxy than they are on the other. Without an ever present pulse rippling through the cosmos keeping all this in sync, the symmetry of time would be broken.

That’s precisely the case imo, Analog. Time symmetry must be broken, divided, in order to allow for the differentials required for conscious observations. It’s like walking forward or backward, with each step being a break in symmetry. You can’t do both simultaneously, but the absolute universe must and therefore is always at rest – perfect symmetry.

Once the symmetry is broken, chaos ensues and an infinite number of random interactions occurs as a result of the abstract absolutes - the one and zero – from which I propose consciousness plays the ordering role as it is encoded in the DNA. It governs the brain and body, and all time-dependent conditions required for encoding because it is not “set” as pre-existent matter. It is a massive process, and not a material existence.

Originally Posted by analog Would this not be a representation of absolute time, then?

The way I consider it, absolute time doesn’t exist because it is the non-existent basis for what is referred to as existence. To understand time, perhaps, more easily as space – since both are synonymous – consider what is required for there to be a concept of up and down, or left and right; there needs to be the non-existent absolute divisor that is neither up nor down, nor right nor left. That absolute divisor, then, is the present “now” and absolute time.

Originally Posted by analog That was always my problem with answering the riddle of motion by viewing it as particles replicating from one point to the other. This would cause more problems than it solved to me, because then to have a chronological flow to anything, you would have to have a heartbeat across the vastness of space traveling at instantaneous speeds much faster than Einstein's light. Then, you would get into the headache of what we know as present reality riding that wave across space, whereby, in front of the wave was furture, and behind the wave past. I don't know. I never was drawn to this type of thought, not to say that you aren't right.

Like I always say to Dave, it’s about being right to you because others can be wrong. For me, the absolute universe can only have absolute density, space, time, mass, speed, etc.. Otherwise, it wouldn’t be absolute.

What we consciously realize – when reality is subconsciously-created – is the time-dependent factors of Einstein’s Relativity that logically extend infinitely as space and eternally as time. Yet, what we can’t realize, directly, is that the absolute universe has no reality in such times, and therefore the container that contains dimensional reality must be abstract. There is no reason for the absolute universe to move or propagate through any medium, but like quantum jumping is already “there” because it is nowhere in particular; “in particular” as being prerequisite for describing and discerning concrete reality in particular places and at particular times.

The relative absolutes of science can be likened to fractions between one and zero, and counter-intuitively the one and zero are exactly the same because they meet like two ends looped in a circle where we can no longer tell where the ends are; the ends, the one and zero, no longer exist. Now when we put that in a perspective of density, absolute solidity and absolute vacuity disappear to form the basis for the infinite number of variable densities – mediums, field densities, etc. - all based on reducing the absolute time of the universe; again, zero time because it takes zero time to reach anywhere. I propose it is the long-sought-after cause.