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Hi Aaron, please join us, your company is most welcome.

Originally Posted by JamesANicholson Hello, to everyone who has been following this thread. Mind if I join in the fray

From the perspective of UVS, for two large masses of air of different temperature or pressure came together and joined each other, more commonly known as hot front and cold front interactions, is the effect with feedback functions that could drive the storms, is mistaken as the cause.

Here are the evidence:


The void in the vortex of troposphere will be displaced by a higher atmosphere entity of different temperate that changes gradually with altitude, this cause the great different in air temperature for adjecent air masses. In some cases, like for hurricane, this warm core of hot and cold front would trigger a thermal effect that can intensify and sustain the storms for weeks in a feedback loop. However the differential sates are merely the effect of the cause. This is also same for pressure gradient effect, convection, the associated electromagnetic storm effect, external influences such as external pressure and warm sea effect, etc. Also a hurricane must not be mistaken as a vortex, though it mirrored exactly like one, it is merely a phenomenon induced as a shadow echoed by the dynamics of a huge cyclonic atmospheric vortex, probing in the dynamics of the induced phenomenon would probably be futile, but not useless though, and this is the main reason why it is still a poorly understood subject in atmospheric science. More details of this in UVS perspective can be found on this page:
http://www.singularvortex.com/WFE%20...Hurricane).htm

As for what was going on from a molecular level, I would humbly suggest the detailed probing should zero in on the fundamental cause, i.e. investigate on the invisible entity, this can be promising for it is an area not yet treaded. I am not the expert in this area, so best to you Aaron, and all those who seek in this direction.

Originally Posted by JamesANicholson I spent a little time a few years back considering the formation of vortexes in how they would fit into my own ToE. Specifically I was trying to analyze the natural cycle of water going from ice or liquid to vapor, rising up high into the atmosphere, condensing back to liquid or ice and falling to the earth and flowing to the sea to repeat the cycle all over again. One of the phenomena I needed Toe (sic) consider was: what was the cause of Tornadoes and Hurricanes? There seemed to be overwhelming evidence that they always occurred where two large masses of air of different temperature or pressure came together and joined each other. It seemed that only under these conditions did the funnels or vortexes come about and in a real way it seems to be the simple result of these differentials interacting or coming together. But I wanted to know what was going on from a molecular level. I knew that a small drop of water when vaporized would expand to fill a much bigger volume at the same pressure, so of course the opposite also happens that when vapor condensed back into liquid form, a huge volumetric pressure absence would be formed, a vacuum. So, I am wondering if this kind or processes are not going on for all variation of vortexes? A differential of states, coupled with a volume altering condensation of one form or another?

This should be the classical explanations on the primary shape nature has adopted to express and one need not have to look elsewhere for alternative explanation.

Though I once had aced in engineering mathmatics, but that was something of distant pass a few decades ago, rusted and much has been forgotten, and I heard the modern senario for mathematics has undergone a major overhaul. However, friends in ministry of education who volunteered to help in the mathematics principles for vortex dynamics based on UVS has not bear anything as yet. Interplanetary gravity effects on fluid dynamics of viscos mass has not been deciphered yet, even Euler had only managed to solved the equations of differential gravity for up to three aligned planets, cannot account accurately if there are not aligned. The mathematics for multiple gravities reaction by several planets in different phases acting on viscous mass on a planet should be even more harder to conceive. I would be very grateful if the mathematicians here can shed some light, for stringers are research mathematicians and experts of this caliber should be aplenty here.

Originally Posted by JamesANicholson Then as to the circular/conical shape, circles and spheres are just the most efficient shapes for containing area and volume and can be solved with basic Min/Max Calculus applications, if I remember correctly. It’s been a few years. How many of you are Mathematicians?

p.s. I am still digesting the part I of your gravity theory. Some idea there reasonated with my probing into effects of plasma in a cosmology concept, particulary the effects of solar wind, still exploring.