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David Maes
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08-25-2005, 06:50 PM
First of all, I don't think the force is part of everything. I rather think, everything is part of the force...

I even rather think the force IS everything.

You know what Einstein said; mass is energy. Now, you can of course distroy mass; and even if you don't, it gets distroyed after a while, this is the direction of time (it's much easier to scramble an egg than to unscramble it).

The strange thing is, how can you distroy energy??? You can transform kinds of energy into other kinds; but you cannot distroy it.
So, matter is getting older, but energy not. It's just the sorting of energy which is getting older. I think this energy (which you can't destroy) IS the force 'itself'. I think 'the force' or 'God' (or name it like you want) is fluing right through us (while we are eating and breathing for example), and we don't even see it, because the perception of our brain is interpretating it as matter; because our brain takes an average of all information which comes in in our brain; and I believe this information is subjective. How can we ever prove anything, if we always have to perceive it first? Because what we perceive is created by the received information; but also by our brain itself!!

Now... a very important question (but very difficult to answer)...



Imagen there is no God, or there is no force...

First there was nothing; only empty space; eternall blackness....

Suddenly, in this nothing, there is starting to exist a little pingpongball of very hot energy.
Now, my logical question and conclusion is; where the hell does it come from? How can there start to exist suddenly anything out of totally nothing????
I think this is logically impossible.

Secundly even if there would be no force; imagening that there suddenly would start to exist something out of nothing (which is impossible) from itself...
If there is no force and if there aren't any ghosts; this means that actually the existence of live has no purpose (because eventually we die!). If it has no purpose; than why is it there???

Than it just wouldn't be there; I think then there would be nothing.

Of course there is a huge difference between the purpose we THINK live has; and the real purpose (which I don't know). In my opinion I think it even doesn't have a purpose. (of course this is MY opinion) Maybe the force creates live because the force is just like that, maybe its just its nature!; the force doesn't need a purpose... It think the word "purpose" is something created by the human brain.

The force doesn't think, it doesn't feel... Only a brain can do that.

I also think the force has NOT been there BEFORE everything.
You know what I think about energy... Only matter is getting older.
I think energy (the potential of doing labor) is not influenced by time; you can't distroy it... it's not getting older...

For us it just has a constant speed (whether you are moving towards it or moving away from it), the speed of light. But we cannot touch light.
When you cross two beams of light (for example two laserbeams), than they don't change direction. Only matter changes direction!

I also believe that the word "before" only exists in the human brain. I think this is just a part of the way humans perceive their world; they feel 'the passage of time'. I think this is only the way that the brain is sorting incoming information... Because eventually everything we PERCEIVE has a direction (it's getting older)... The only question is does this direction really exist in nature; or is it just the direction we use to do perceptions...?
Because we don't have this perception with energy. What could be more like a god than something which never dies?? Something which you can't distroy?

So, what I mean is, I think time does not exist (Einstein believed it also). I think time is just something created in our brain to sort incoming information.
Of course, I cannot prove this, because everything we perceive is influenced by time.
The only reason we experience time, is to prevent we would see everything happen at the same time.

Imagen a world where nothing happens, a world without time, a world where everything is standing still (It's like you're looking to a video and you pushed the pause-button). I think this is the world 'the force' is perceiving; a world where everything happens at the same time...

So it's not necessary he was there BEFORE everything; he is undistroyable. He has always been there, and he allways will be there. He creates all time and all space and everything in one moment.


I even believe that SPACE is a creation of the brain (the brain is sorted energy). Our brain is experiencing space and distances...! But this doesn't prove the existance of space!! Maybe again it's a way of perceiving incoming information by the brain! Using 'space'. So I don't think "the force" needs space... I think "space" is just a word, a signification our brain gives to the world. I believe the perceived world indeed sometimes "meets" the real world... But I know there is a huge difference between the perceived world and the real world!!!!!!!

Maybe this is the cause of all the problems we have to interpretate quantummechanics... Because we try to understand it with our brain, but this is impossible; nobody can understand quantummechanics; no one can be told what "the matrix" is.....
We are trying to understand quantummechanics by using time and distance; but I think these things simply do not exist...
May it's like the purpose of live.... does it really have a purpose? Does it really have a signification? Or is it just our brain that gives a signification to live???????

(Of course, this is just filosophie; I mean... don't take it personal; enjoy your live and make the best of it; I'm just like everybody, I wanna know the truth).

Descartes ones said; "I think, so I am"......

PS:
I don't think the "ghost" is a possession of us alone, I think it's just everywhere!!!!!!!!!!

PS:


Another thing....

You're thinking very logically. You said the force is something and something is always a part of everything. That's right.

But... Imagen that 'everything' only contains two things: the force and nothing.

And imagen that this one thing; the force; CONTAINS everything else...(except nothing)!... Imagen it contains also time!... Imagen that outside the force time does not exist!... Because time is also a thing...

However... You're right the force is always a part of everything. But is nothing a thing???? No, it's NO-THING.

You could say that 'everything else besides the force' is a part of the force or you could say that the force is a part of everything.

But it's still possible that there is only ONE thing. It's still possible that everything we are or everthing we percieve is a part OF the force.

So you can discuss the fact that the force is a part of everything by saying that everything is only one thing, which contains 'everything else except the force.'

PS :

Nothing is a thing also... because 'nothing' is the signification our brain gives to nothing. But nothing doesn't have to be a thing.

Indeed, you are very analytical and very realistic.

With respect,
David.

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