[PoPpAScience]

Hi austin;

I am also enjoying our conversation on 'Cosmic business. I do not think you are reaching the end to your human powers of reasoning. I think as long as you are engaging your mind in places where others are afraid to go, you will constantly receive new incites.

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Your statement above is all the proof anyone needs, to see the fact that the universe has the ability to fine tune itself, in order to reach another level of evolution. We can ether use the mysticism answer, that the laws where always there to do this. Or, we can state that the laws are the effect, of the cause of fine tuning itself to the level needed, for an evaluational jump.

I personally still can not see a universe becoming 'still born'. In my mind the universe would have to give up on itself for this to happen. As long as the core building blocks are in place the universe will eventually achieve what is needed for it to reach an evaluational jump.

I personally believe that "Aware" is to consciousness, as a cell is to a human. Consciousness to me, is a complex evaluational outcome of evolving life.

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Even though that was well stated above, and is the way I thought for a very long time, it is still the 'chicken before the egg' scenario. I also, thought of the universe as having already evolved to all it can be, and that we are just here experiencing this increment in time. That we could be changing the surface of the future of this universe through our experiences. I think we are influencing the future but not the past.

I personally do not need laws and information to be in place in order for the universe to evolve the way it did. I think that all that is needed is, "Aware" with it's "inherent" nature, of seeking and experiencing with potential. This nature is the core architect of all there is.

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What you are stating above, is the effector of evaluational life. I see as you state above, that the consciousness of living beings, both animal and human, influence quantum events by their attracting the quantum world to their will(needs). All life effects and draws action from the quantum world to its very need. From the time of the great evaluational leap from only evolving material, to life, material has been at the beckon call of Life.

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Originally Posted by austintorn@aol.com So, I hereby declare that the superimposed potential of all possibilities created the Universe through the probabilities sequenced by Awareness as those that would be flexible enough to form future, just as the purpose of our personal conscious awareness seems to be.

Well spoken austin.