[dleviwing]

Hans;
Welcome to ToeQuest.

We have many forums here including religious and spiritual forums. The arguments that Tina mentioned only arise when members attempt to present religion in the science forums. Science does not recognize faith and testimonial evidences as proof; science philosophy requires observable empirical data. When any religion provides such data then it becomes science. We call the study of religions science, but that does not make religion a science. Most scientist also have a religious faith. I’ve never been able to find any “will-of-god” justification for the atrocities of neither humans nor nature.