[Graybeard]

Hey Rajinder .... good to hear from you. I here Michael and you will be sharing a cup of cheer around Xmas time. Wish I could be with you both ... perhaps next time.

Originally Posted by r.p.bibra Dear Greg, Analog, a.. Spirituality means destroying the animal nature in man and awakening him to his divine consciousness. Spirituality ......... means acknowledging that all powers come from the Divine.” (words of a wise)

The 'Animal Nature' in man is there as part of our ancestors legacy. 'Spirituality' must include acknowledgment of this too. ?? I dont see 'Animal Nature' as a bad thing, its bought us to our current level of awareness. And at the least it must be credited of making us capable of recognising that we have inner feelings.

Why do you think this should be discarded ?

Originally Posted by r.p.bibra b.. Now about the “Silent- BEINGNESS Or Pure-AWARENESS” Melanie speaks about ‘that’ state which transcends the mind. But the physical scientists are trained to think of only the ephemeral world or the world which is within the sphere of the mind! Nothing unusual, as the ‘creation’ we live in is within the conception of the mind! So no amount of argumentation or explanation will help to go over this problem or fill up the gap with the help of intellectual enquiry, because the ‘state’ referred to is not a discipline of secular curriculum not it is an experience of senses. It is experiencing of the ‘Divine’, which is possible only by spiritual sadhna (practice). This state is attainable and it is matter of pride that toe has two “Realized Souls” So give them patient hearing, all of you will definitely benefit. The problem with these ‘realized soul’ is, they speak from a plane which is beyond the intellectual ken of persons who are not engaged/live in the science (yes it a highly proficient/ provable/practical science) of spiritualism.

If the 'Divine' is only experienced by Sadhna Practice, how was this discovered. In other words, for this practice to exist something else MUST have existed before.

Evolution explains this to me in a logical sequential structure. If this explanation fits all the known facts, why shouldn't it be considered as a viable alternative. At the least it provides a bridge between biology and consciousness

Originally Posted by r.p.bibra c.. About the use of 10% intelligence & the proof thereof….. An analogy: according to one scientific version the ordinary matter constitutes about 4 percent of the universe, so it could safely be assumed that the human intelligence can at best be to that level (4%) only!

Touche good friend .... I tried, but I cannot find an argument to gainsay this. (point c)

cool bananas ... greg